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34,542 hits 2.5 (4 votes) Share Favorite | Flag 8 years ago by 314159

Do you think aliens exist?


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8 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 4/8/14 - 9:25:59 AM EST (GMT-5)
Satanael/Lucifer616's account is closed (thanks GS and other mods) so I'll answer the question now.

I have no doubt that simple life forms exist throughout the universe. As for intelligent life I believe it's there too but very rare.

But I don't believe we have been visited. The distances involved are nearly incomprehensible and the speed of light appears to be an unbreakable law.

But what I hope for is that someone somewhere will crack that nut some day. Interplanetary travel is too cool of a concept to give up hope on.
8 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 4/8/14 - 1:29:02 PM EST (GMT-5)
You guys know that was Chugstim, right?
8 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 4/8/14 - 1:33:24 PM EST (GMT-5)
I very much believe they do. I can't think of any reason why we would be the only life forms in the entire Universe. Haven't we already found microbes in space? Alien life-form doesn't always have to be humanoid.
8 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 4/8/14 - 1:33:36 PM EST (GMT-5)
Couldn't have been- - not nearly enough charts/graphs...
8 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 4/8/14 - 1:45:53 PM EST (GMT-5)
No, but that's the only difference. I Mean, but of them are Satanists who rely heavily on biblical narrative to promote their belief in a single origin narrative/myth which uses UFO's to explain humanity. The only thing this dork is missing is the charts and graphs and belief in 2012 as the day of rapture.

Surely forum gets one crazy UFO obsessed Gnostic bible believing Satanist, but 2?
8 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 4/8/14 - 1:48:01 PM EST (GMT-5)
Affirmative action. That demographic was clearly underrepresented.
8 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 4/8/14 - 1:48:31 PM EST (GMT-5)
...not that it was a bad thing.
8 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 4/8/14 - 3:07:21 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 4/8/14 - 1:48:01 PM CowDung wrote:
Affirmative action. That demographic was clearly underrepresented.


No, I'm pretty sure that 1 was overrepresented. I think even on forums for UFO obsessed Gnostic bible believing Satanists you could only get one per forum. Anything more upsets the freakosystem.

8 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 4/8/14 - 10:25:10 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 4/8/14 - 1:29:02 PM Kepi wrote:
You guys know that was Chugstim, right?

Wait, that kid was chugstim all along?
8 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 4/8/14 - 11:01:41 PM EST (GMT-5)
Who else would it be?
8 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 4/8/14 - 11:38:42 PM EST (GMT-5)
Me? I'm so conspiracy-riddled I shaved my nipples.

Not really dough
8 yrs ago - Monday 9/22/14 - 2:04:12 PM EST (GMT-5)
Yes, as bacteria. I have no idea about intelligent life, probably not. But I would have to see to believe if they were living like it was the middle ages, modern age, or future. I don't understand why conspiracy theorists think every alien is better than us.
8 yrs ago - Monday 9/22/14 - 3:16:55 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 4/8/14 - 1:29:02 PM Kepi wrote:
You guys know that was Chugstim, right?

I've so missed chug. But I don't think that was him. Chug was more linear.

But transparently, Electric is back. Hi Ritardando.

Anyway: like snarf wrote: I'm sure there are plenty of simple life forms, say like worms are insects, all over the universe.

But I doubt there is intelligent life. Anywhere really. But complex life would be extremely difficult to sustain on the vast VAST majority of planets.
8 yrs ago - Tuesday 9/23/14 - 7:45:21 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 9/22/14 - 3:16:55 PM dacash wrote:
But I doubt there is intelligent life. Anywhere really. But complex life would be extremely difficult to sustain on the vast VAST majority of planets.


That is true. Luckily there could be tens of billions of Earth-like planets in our own galaxy alone, which drastically reduces the odds of complex appearing.

In fact, there may be as many as 100,000,000 planets with complex life.

In our galaxy.

http://www.gizmag.com/extraterrestr...
8 yrs ago - Tuesday 9/23/14 - 9:03:33 AM EST (GMT-5)
I think it would be rather arrogant of us to think we are the only intelligent life forms in the entire universe
8 yrs ago - Tuesday 9/23/14 - 11:54:44 AM EST (GMT-5)
You can be all the Earth like you want, even with the necessary moon(s) and magnetic fields, it could be identical to Earth in every way. But if it anywhere in the universe other than (like us) sitting outside a spiral arm, its getting bombarded with so much heavy radiation, no complex life is going to develop. Period. And assuming its in a solar system that gave it protective outer planets (which would keep random debris from crashing the party and killing everything on the planet on a regular basis).

I mean, the general definition of Earth like tossed about is liquid water bearing, or worse, merely in the Goldilocks zone around a sun. In truth, there may not be *any* other planets that could sustain life. There sure aren't billions.



8 yrs ago - Tuesday 9/23/14 - 12:01:48 PM EST (GMT-5)
I know they do.
8 yrs ago - Tuesday 9/23/14 - 12:14:47 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 9/23/14 - 11:54:44 AM dacash wrote:
stuff

actual scientists and researchers seem to disagree with you.. period
8 yrs ago - Tuesday 9/23/14 - 12:41:07 PM EST (GMT-5)
Sorry dacash, but people who do this for a living disagree with you. I give more weight to their opinion than to yours.
8 yrs ago - Tuesday 9/23/14 - 12:49:16 PM EST (GMT-5)
Funny. Actual people that do research on this is where I got the information I shared with you.

I suppose you agree with Sagan... who sent his signal into a globular cluster where hard radiation would have ruined ANY chance of a intelligent life. See, there's a difference between being a popular TV personality, and people who are actual scientists and researchers that know what they are doing. Or are you guys thinking professional wrestling is a real sport?
8 yrs ago - Tuesday 9/23/14 - 12:55:06 PM EST (GMT-5)
Some suggested reading for the pop scientists:
"Nature's Density" Denton, Micheal
"The Privileged Planet" Gonzales, Guillermo and Jay Wesley Richards
"God and the Astronomers" Jastrow, Robert
"Six Modern Myths" Sampson, Philip
"Rare Earth" Ward, Peter and Donald Brownlee
8 yrs ago - Tuesday 9/23/14 - 12:59:08 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 9/23/14 - 12:55:06 PM dacash wrote:
Some suggested reading for the pop scientists: "Nature's Density" Denton, Micheal "The Privileged Planet" Gonzales, Guillermo and Jay Wesley Richards "God and the Astronomers" Jastrow, Robert "Six Modern Myths" Sampson, Philip "Rare Earth" Ward, Peter and Donald Brownlee

you have to be joking
8 yrs ago - Tuesday 9/23/14 - 1:06:22 PM EST (GMT-5)
I suppose the idea that you might look at the argument from any POV but your own, let alone actually read something, is a joke.

So yeah, I guess it was.
8 yrs ago - Tuesday 9/23/14 - 2:03:39 PM EST (GMT-5)
it has nothing to do with different point of views
it has everything to do with exactly what kind of point of views or readings you are wanting people to read
so i'll go down the list


Nature's Destiny
"New England biologist Denton continues the assault on Darwinian science, especially the theories of evolution and natural selection, that he began in Evolution: A Theory in Crisis."

that's enough for me


The Privileged Planet
a book about intelligent design
actually something i believe in, but doesn't have much place when talking about science right now
8 yrs ago - Tuesday 9/23/14 - 2:09:33 PM EST (GMT-5)
God and the Astronomers
another book trying to reconcile god and religion
again, something i don't really have a problem with, but how exactly does it fit in with the discussion on life on other planets?

6 Modern Myths About Christianity & Western Civilization
you left out part of the title
again, how is it relevant?

Rare Earth
the only relevant book you posted!
and i bet it has good information too

but they don't seem to take the position that complex life is impossible
just rare, which to be fair is pretty much what was said in the link gs posted

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