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5,947 hits Rate me! Share Favorite | Flag 16 years ago by Boothvic

Do you think that religion will eventually be eliminated?


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16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Saturday 12/24/05 - 11:33:14 AM EST (GMT-5)
Unfortunately religion in many parts of the world seems to be diminishing in exchange for moral beliefs (like the feeling out outrage at a murder or rape) rather than the beliefs of religion (like believing in God or Jesus). However some would say we gain these moral beliefs from religious teachings (such as the Ten Commandments) and therefore it could be argued that religion will never truly be eliminated.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Saturday 12/24/05 - 11:35:51 AM EST (GMT-5)
Why unfortunately?
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Saturday 12/24/05 - 11:36:32 AM EST (GMT-5)
It should be.

Pick anything horrible event in history, and you can trace it back to religion being the cause of it.

16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Saturday 12/24/05 - 11:37:05 AM EST (GMT-5)
Religion is everywhere. As is the lack of religion. As long as we all get on in a spirit of mutual respect, neither is a problem.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Saturday 12/24/05 - 12:05:45 PM EST (GMT-5)
It's impossible to eliminate it. I do believe that it will gradually disappear by itself though.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Saturday 12/24/05 - 12:08:27 PM EST (GMT-5)
More then likely, but it will still take some time for it to be eliminated altogether.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Saturday 12/31/05 - 2:54:26 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 12/24/2005 11:36:32 AM cliche' wrote:
Pick anything horrible event in history, and you can trace it back to religion being the cause of it.

Religion causes no evil.
People's stupid interpretation of religion is what wreaks havoc.

People are always searching for something more, something that is higher than themselves. Some people find it in art, drugs, sex, etc. Others find it in their religion.

In the future, perhaps, we will have evolved in such a way that people can have transcendent experiences and fulfillment without connecting it to their religious beliefs.
I think it IS possible that religion won't be needed in the future. Spirituality is here to stay, though.

16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Saturday 12/31/05 - 2:56:19 PM EST (GMT-5)
Not in this country. Nor do I think it should be, the United States is literally founded on religious freedom.

Although, I personally would feel more comfortable if they would make a clean break between church and state.

16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Saturday 12/31/05 - 3:00:06 PM EST (GMT-5)
I would hope so...
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Saturday 12/31/05 - 3:12:00 PM EST (GMT-5)
No, but that would be awesome if it were!
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 1/3/06 - 8:24:56 PM EST (GMT-5)
Why? it gives people a reason to live it wouldnt be awsome.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 1/10/06 - 10:03:48 AM EST (GMT-5)
people shouldnt need a reason to live. they should be able to accept reality and move on and come to terms with life and realy start enjoying themselves. why worry about what a god may think and spend my life worrying what is a sin and what isnt i wanna just enjoy myself.
religion has caused a lot of bad things but does have its good sides if it is used in an innocent manner. people read into religion too much, for example the bible is a book of fables and stories about good morals like the boy who cried wolf.
lets face it hundreds of years ago humans needed something more they needed to cling on to a hope that their existence meant something more, and the wealthy greedy rich men preyed on this forthier own power, Religion is a powerful piece of propergander used to persuade people to take extreme action in the name of god when there is normally something more sinister happening.
the very idea that romans adopted catholisism proves it,
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 1/10/06 - 10:07:14 AM EST (GMT-5)
how is the pope close to god covered in gold silk robes. when there are starving people preying for their lives.
every holy scripture is written by a human. humans lie.
the buddha is probably the best religion.
i mean we all have feelings and we know whats right and wrong. and the biggest wrongs in history and even today are cuased by religion.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 1/10/06 - 10:07:55 AM EST (GMT-5)
Religion isn't bad it is organized religion that is the problem. Convince someone they influence the fate of their immortal soul and you can get them to do anything. There is no check on the power.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 1/10/06 - 10:10:12 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 12/31/2005 2:56:20 PM unhailey wrote:
Not in this country. Nor do I think it should be, the United States is literally founded on religious freedom. Although, I personally would feel more comfortable if they would make a clean break between church and state.

Damn!!!
Did the Government establish a State Religion while I was asleep last night?
No?
Well then, the constitution is still being followed.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 1/10/06 - 10:10:55 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 1/10/2006 10:07:56 AM lonewolf3882 wrote:
Religion isn't bad it is organized religion that is the problem. Convince someone they influence the fate of their immortal soul and you can get them to do anything. There is no check on the power.

Of course there is a check on the power. It is called free will.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 1/10/06 - 10:12:41 AM EST (GMT-5)
i once heard it said that the devils biggest trick was convincing the world he doesnt exist.
i think his biggest trick was convincing the world that he is a god and religeous holy scriptures are true. and do you know who the devil is.
he is the lies and evil that man creates and no god is powerful enough to stop that.
religion should be destroyed. it was a good way of keeping law an order centuries ago but there is no need for it.
and as for the arguement that moral values are based on religion, what do you think religion is based on.
humanity and emotions rationable thought is all we need to day. apart from a law enforment service and judicial system to catch and punish those that need it.
Amen.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 1/10/06 - 10:44:31 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 1/10/2006 10:10:55 AM yankees15 wrote:
On 1/10/2006 There is no check on the power. Of course there is a check on the power. It is called free will.

Except if you convince someone you control the fate of their immortal soul, they probably already believe you know right and wrong better than they do and it effectively stops them thinking about it which in turn eliminates free will.

16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 1/10/06 - 10:48:14 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 1/10/2006 10:44:32 AM lonewolf3882 wrote:
On 1/10/2006 10:10:55 AM yankees15 wrote: On 1/10/2006 There is no check on the power. Of course there is a check on the power. It is called free will. Except if you convince someone you control the fate of their immortal soul, they probably already believe you know right and wrong better than they do and it effectively stops them thinking about it which in turn eliminates free will.

For debate's sake, and I'm not trying to bust your chops, do you suggest that the government step in to rectify a situation like this?
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 1/10/06 - 10:55:10 AM EST (GMT-5)
I know you arent trying to bust my chops I was just making a rebuttal. And no i suggest we don't have organized religion that each person follow their religion on their own with whatever bible or beliefs that are required to go with it.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 1/10/06 - 10:57:58 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 1/10/2006 10:55:11 AM lonewolf3882 wrote:
I know you arent trying to bust my chops I was just making a rebuttal. And no i suggest we don't have organized religion that each person follow their religion on their own with whatever bible or beliefs that are required to go with it.

So, should the government eliminate organized religion, or do you just wish it didn't exist.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 1/10/06 - 1:37:53 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 1/10/2006 10:07:56 AM lonewolf3882 wrote:
Religion isn't bad it is organized religion that is the problem. Convince someone they influence the fate of their immortal soul and you can get them to do anything. There is no check on the power.

That's a ridiculously inaccurate picture of what organized religion is in the first place. While the structure has been abused, faith is about an individual's walk with God, and any organized religion worth its hymnals will foster that.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 1/10/06 - 1:44:22 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 1/10/2006 10:10:13 AM yankees15 wrote:
On 12/31/2005 2:56:20 PM unhailey wrote: Not in this country. Nor do I think it should be, the United States is literally founded on religious freedom. Although, I personally would feel more comfortable if they would make a clean break between church and state. Damn!!! Did the Government establish a State Religion while I was asleep last night? No? Well then, the constitution is still being followed.

We could argue. I could give examples of how we effectively do have a state religion (although, I don't really have a problem with that as long as all people's rights are honored and protected.) Then, you could intentionally or unintentionally misunderstand everything I say and repeat yourself post after post. We COULD do that, but I really have no desire to.

16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 1/10/06 - 1:47:38 PM EST (GMT-5)
No, I believe Religion is an evolutionary advancement. We may evolve out of it, but that will be long after we evolve into a different species.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 1/10/06 - 1:48:35 PM EST (GMT-5)
By "clean break between church and state," unhailey, do you mean Congress shouldn't open sessions with prayers, that our money shouldn't say, "In God we trust," and that the President shouldn't say, "God Bless America" so much? If so, I think that's really petty. I think that would infringe upon the preference of the majority over something that is not really hurting anyone.
Now, if you're talking instead about eliminating govt services and allowing private, faith-based businesses to take over, I agree. If you're talking about allowing others to defer or to practice different religions, I agree.
I tend to be much more in favor of the expression of religion, the freedom to it, rather than the freedom from it.

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