No thats ridiuocously stupid.

No, I have unusually high self-confidence.
Plus, I have just never seen models, plus-size or thin, to be some epitome of beauty that I must live up to. I keep myself groomed and healthy and such so that I can be my best. Living up to someone else's expectation is impossible.

Nah. I don't look at models much anyway.

No, it doesn't. It's about time that a magazine focused on photographing women who actually look real and every day women instead of using extremely thin models who look anorexic who don't even come close to a "real" woman's figure.

On Monday 5/3/10 - 3:09:08 PM angeleyesgr wrote: No, it doesn't. It's about time that a magazine focused on photographing women who actually look real and every day women instead of using extremely thin models who look anorexic who don't even come close to a "real" woman's figure.

What exactly are the specifications of a "real" woman's figure? Am I not a "real" woman because I'm a size 0?

Also, big boobs + small waist + wide hips(ie. the model you see on/in the majority of magazines) is not anorexic looking, no matter how much better it makes you feel to say it.

I personally would love to see a wider range of sizes and body types used in advertising. I think it would be awesome if they quit airbrushing photos to make pores look non-existant, and I think it should be considered false advertising to use lash extensions on models in mascara commercials.

Yeah, the "real" woman argument is difficult.

Of course there are real women who wear size O. That is rude to imply that they're not a true woman.
On the other hand, plus sized women seem to always be size 14-16 (at least visually, maybe the camera is adding weight).
What about the rest of the spectrum? How about a size 6 or 8 woman?
I feel that the designers ca bank too much on their clothing looking good on a slender teenage model (who would look good in a potato sack). It would be a better challenge to design clothing that flatters women of different sizes- you'd have a much larger market.

People who accuse very skinny women of being anorexic are jealous, no matter how much they deny it. Some people are just naturally skinny with big boobs. And I agree with Misspelled, it's extremely rude to imply women who wera size 0 are not true women.

On a different note - the lady who gave me modeling classes back in high school was a plus sized woman, and she was one of the most beautiful and graceful women I've ever met.

Maybe instead of bitching about your weight, do something about it. It's not the model's fault if you have a low self-esteem

No, because I'm not as hefty as them. I would not, however, look as good as the girls in that picture topless because my skin does not have a natural airbrushed look to it

Thinner models don't make me jealous either, because I don't want to be that thin. And I'm never as tall as them, and my height is purely beyond my control, so why worry about it?

I will admit that whenever I hear "real woman," I think "fat chick." The term just seems to imply that skinny girls are freaks of nature.

Why do I think that skinniness isn't unnatural? Well, my senior year as an undergrad I was an athlete and weighed 125 lbs at 5'10". After a year of not exercising more than walking up to my third floor apartment, I weigh 130 lbs.

I will point out that I'm male, and would obviously weigh more than a female in my situation.

It makes me feel better, actually. I very much enjoy being thin.

When I said real women I mean the average woman I see on the street....No matter what bodytype she has.

I don't know but as a photographer I know that models don't look the way they are pictures in magazines.

Real for me is also a woman who hasn't been photoshopped.

It's not like that I hate models or am jealous of the way they look but I hate the whole idea of photographing them, then working hours with photoshop to make them look "better"...

i think that after looking at ANY model, fat or skinny, the average woman would feel kinda crappy.

with all the proffesional makeup and hair jobs, they are supposed to look better than average. which is why they model..to sell clothes that would "make the woman look like them"

On Monday 5/3/10 - 2:37:39 PM clashrocker wrote: No, I have unusually high self-confidence. Plus, I have just never seen models, plus-size or thin, to be some epitome of beauty that I must live up to. I keep myself groomed and healthy and such so that I can be my best. Living up to someone else's expectation is impossible.

That's exactly the way I see it.

Models, no matter what size, do not look like your average Jane Doe. They have professional hair stylists, make-up people, and clothes fitted perfectly for their bodies. Plus, in pictures they are photoshopped, airbrushed, etc. So seeing models does not effect my self-esteem. I look the way I look...I may lose a few pounds, do my hair up with gel and cake on the hairspray, put on a lot of make-up, or wear the most stylish clothing...but it doesn't really matter. I know I look nice the way I am and that's good enough for me.

On Tuesday 5/4/10 - 8:40:04 PM its_2_simple wrote: Models, no matter what size, do not look like your average Jane Doe. They have professional hair stylists, make-up people, and clothes fitted perfectly for their bodies. Plus, in pictures they are photoshopped, airbrushed, etc. So seeing models does not effect my self-esteem. I look the way I look...I may lose a few pounds, do my hair up with gel and cake on the hairspray, put on a lot of make-up, or wear the most stylish clothing...but it doesn't really matter. I know I look nice the way I am and that's good enough for me.

Woo Hoo!! You go girl!

Looking at plus size models makes me want to throw up. I want models that are 85 lbs.

On Monday 5/3/10 - 2:37:39 PM clashrocker wrote: No, I have unusually high self-confidence. Plus, I have just never seen models, plus-size or thin, to be some epitome of beauty that I must live up to. I keep myself groomed and healthy and such so that I can be my best. Living up to someone else's expectation is impossible.

On Tuesday 5/4/10 - 3:35:25 PM kayawithpig wrote: That's exactly the way I see it.

Even the "grooming" part, KJ?

I am not over weight, but I would think it would give me hope in that I could be saw as beautiful too in society if these other women could make it. I cant see how it would be worse than looking at a petite model? Thats crazy to me.

When I look at any models I don't feel as pretty- it doesn't matter their body shape as long as they are not obese. Thin models are just as pretty as plus size ones. They have perfect photo shopped faces.

Nope.