A pee-brained Florida urologist has posted a sign on his office door that says, "If you voted for Obama ... seek urologic care elsewhere. Changes to your health care begin right now, not in four years."

Dr. Jack Cassell is a Republican practicing in Mount Dora, Florida. Strangely, he thinks that only people who share his political viewpoints are worthy of his care. "I'm not turning anybody away — that would be unethical," he told the Orlando Sentinel. "But if they read the sign and turn the other way, so be it." Well, at least he's keeping ethics in mind.

Believe it or not, it gets worse. Cassell has a stack of photocopied GOP material in his waiting room. A sign above it reads: "This is what the morons in Washington have done to your health care. Take one, read it and vote out anyone who voted for it."

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Is it unethical for a doctor to post their political beliefs around their office?
A pee-brained Florida urologist has posted a sign on his office door that says, "If you voted for Obama ... seek urologic care elsewhere. Changes to your health care begin right now, not in four years."

Dr. Jack Cassell is a Republican practicing in Mount Dora, Florida. Strangely, he thinks that only people who share his political viewpoints are worthy of his care. "I'm not turning anybody away — that would be unethical," he told the Orlando Sentinel. "But if they read the sign and turn the other way, so be it." Well, at least he's keeping ethics in mind.

Believe it or not, it gets worse. Cassell has a stack of photocopied GOP material in his waiting room. A sign above it reads: "This is what the morons in Washington have done to your health care. Take one, read it and vote out anyone who voted for it."

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12 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/3/10 - 2:09:59 PM EST (GMT-5)
If he worked in an ER and was demanding to know a patients political beliefs before treating them (or not treating them), then it would be unethical. But what he's doing now isn't. If his patients don't like it, they're free to go to another doctor. There are rarely urological emergencies.
12 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/3/10 - 2:11:27 PM EST (GMT-5)
If he is in private practice, I suppose it's OK. But if he's employed by the state, he shouldn't be able to do that sort of thing.
12 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/3/10 - 2:37:21 PM EST (GMT-5)
^ It's asking ethics, not legality. And ethically, it is plainly wrong.

Take your oath seriously, you petty mother f*cker. (Re: the doc, not catch)
12 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/3/10 - 3:14:12 PM EST (GMT-5)
Of course not. He isn't turning anyone away, so it isn't an issue. I'd consider it a favor for him posting it, if my doctor felt that way, I would want to know...
12 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/3/10 - 5:08:16 PM EST (GMT-5)
What an unbiased article.

If it is his private practice, I don't think it is unethical.
12 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/3/10 - 6:31:51 PM EST (GMT-5)
"If you voted for Obama ... seek urologic care elsewhere."

Sounds like he is indirectly turning people away...
12 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/3/10 - 8:00:44 PM EST (GMT-5)
I don't think it specifically violates any one part of the Hippocratic Oath, but I think it violates the general idea of it and as such, I'd say he's in grey territory.
Ethically, I don't think doctors should discriminate against patients for reasons such as political beliefs.
12 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/3/10 - 8:02:16 PM EST (GMT-5)
I also think this case goes beyond the question. I wouldn't have a problem with a doctor simply having a small sign for their candidate of choice in their office, if they so choose. But in this article, he is trying to deter patients who disagree with his beliefs from receiving his care.
12 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/3/10 - 8:05:26 PM EST (GMT-5)
So what? If he wants to lose money, why complain? He's the only one being hurt by this.
12 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/3/10 - 8:17:36 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Saturday 4/3/10 - 8:05:26 PM HaroldtheBat wrote:
So what? If he wants to lose money, why complain? He's the only one being hurt by this.


When an already sick person has to drive five hours to find a new doctor because the one that should be treating them puts up a sign like this, the doctor isn't the only one being hurt. Or when a person simply forgoes treatment because of sign like this and falls sicker and dies? Even if the patient legally cannot be refused treatment based on political beliefs (I believe) the fact that the doctor makes the patient think that they can is unethical, in my opinion. He is deliberately performing an action that may harm patients.
12 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/3/10 - 9:20:33 PM EST (GMT-5)
Not to mention this just makes him an immature douche...
12 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/3/10 - 9:23:16 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Saturday 4/3/10 - 2:37:21 PM Malletman wrote:
^ It's asking ethics, not legality. And ethically, it is plainly wrong. Take your oath seriously, you petty mother f*cker. (Re: the doc, not catch)

Doctors aren't allowed to have opinions? I'm not allowed to know them? He wants to post a sign, it is his office. Now, if his treatment is affected unethically, and these posters help you prove your suit, why complain?

Face it, he has the thoughts one way or the other.
12 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/3/10 - 10:40:07 PM EST (GMT-5)
It's not unethical for them to post their political beliefs. It is unethical for them to deny you treatment based on your political beliefs. This principle is known as medical neutrality, and I suspect that this particular doctor may be getting a call from the AMA soon.
12 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/3/10 - 10:41:58 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Saturday 4/3/10 - 10:40:07 PM aldod wrote:
It's not unethical for them to post their political beliefs. It is unethical for them to deny you treatment based on your political beliefs. This principle is known as medical neutrality, and I suspect that this particular doctor may be getting a call from the AMA soon.

it specifically says he isn't denying anyone treatment

though I do think what he's doing is unethical, I don't think so based on false pretenses
12 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Sunday 4/4/10 - 12:06:24 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Saturday 4/3/10 - 9:23:16 PM dacash wrote:
Doctors aren't allowed to have opinions?


There's a difference between having opinions and expressing them, and posting a sign that says, effectively, "go elsewhere," and then pulling the chickensh*t move and saying that you're not (personally) turning patients away.
12 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Sunday 4/4/10 - 12:13:00 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Saturday 4/3/10 - 10:40:07 PM aldod wrote:
This principle is known as medical neutrality...


Umm... no.

Medical neutrality refers to battlefield ethics.
12 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Sunday 4/4/10 - 1:07:42 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Saturday 4/3/10 - 8:17:36 PM pankate wrote:
When an already sick person has to drive five hours to find a new doctor because the one that should be treating them puts up a sign like this, the doctor isn't the only one being hurt. Or when a person simply forgoes treatment because of sign like this and falls sicker and dies? Even if the patient legally cannot be refused treatment based on political beliefs (I believe) the fact that the doctor makes the patient think that they can is unethical, in my opinion. He is deliberately performing an action that may harm patients.

He's not denying anyone treatment, so if they turn around and drive five hours, or forgo treatment and die (however unlikely that is), then they deserve their fate.
12 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Sunday 4/4/10 - 2:35:51 AM EST (GMT-5)
no, as a soon to be doctor, I will believe what I want to believe. (also I would like to point out that I am drunk)

That is all PIONS!!!
lol
12 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Sunday 4/4/10 - 2:55:56 AM EST (GMT-5)
I'd say, in this case, yes. In a small case like someone having a little I'm Republican sign or something, no.

Basically what he is doing is trying to weed out a person that likes a different party than he is, without breaking the law. The way I see it, it's wrong and unethical.
12 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Sunday 4/4/10 - 10:14:21 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Saturday 4/3/10 - 8:17:36 PM pankate wrote:
When an already sick person has to drive five hours to find a new doctor because the one that should be treating them puts up a sign like this, the doctor isn't the only one being hurt. Or when a person simply forgoes treatment because of sign like this and falls sicker and dies? Even if the patient legally cannot be refused treatment based on political beliefs (I believe) the fact that the doctor makes the patient think that they can is unethical, in my opinion. He is deliberately performing an action that may harm patients.


Why do all these kinds of discussions seem to involve people driving 5 hours to see the "only" doctor around?

12 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Sunday 4/4/10 - 1:34:17 PM EST (GMT-5)
Its not unethical; its superficial. Health and healing has nothing to do with politics. The doc is being like a 5 yr old kid, which is not unusual when politics and/or religion comes into the picture.

He's not displaying professionalism, but then it's pretty telling from the sign.
12 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Sunday 4/4/10 - 1:39:59 PM EST (GMT-5)
It would only be unethical if he actually refused people treatment, not for making his opinion known.

As Lynn says, it's unprofessional though.

"Why do all these kinds of discussions seem to involve people driving 5 hours to see the "only" doctor around? "

Hey you post your bullsh*t scenarios and other people post there unlikely ones.

It's kind of a balance... and if you are going to argue about it don't bother seeing as you said....

*all* these kinds of discussions seem to involve people driving 5 hours to see the "only" doctor around?

12 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Sunday 4/4/10 - 2:00:57 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Saturday 4/3/10 - 10:41:58 PM Kungfullama wrote:
it specifically says he isn't denying anyone treatment though I do think what he's doing is unethical, I don't think so based on false pretenses


It doesn't matter if he actually intends to deny people treatment. He gives the impression to patients that he will deny patients his services and that is in effect the same thing, because patients don't know what his true intentions are and will believe they have to seek care elsewhere.
12 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Sunday 4/4/10 - 2:02:20 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Sunday 4/4/10 - 10:14:21 AM CowDung wrote:
Why do all these kinds of discussions seem to involve people driving 5 hours to see the "only" doctor around?


It's not unreasonable to think that in certain parts of the country there will only be one doctor of a particular specialty within five hours.
12 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Sunday 4/4/10 - 4:28:23 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Sunday 4/4/10 - 1:39:59 PM Boredofu wrote:
It would only be unethical if he actually refused people treatment, not for making his opinion known.


Sure, he isn't denying them once they walk in the door, but he is making his office a hostile environment and allowing his patient pool to self-select.

Again, totally legal, but he's tip-toeing around the "I don't deny anyone." in a pretty childish way. If I had a sign in my front door that said "All blacks seek hospitality elsewhere", but let in anyone that knocked... well, I could say the same thing this guy is, couldn't I? That I'm not *really* denying anyone? And yet that's clearly inhospitable.

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