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574 hits Rate me! Share Favorite | Flag 13 years ago by KikiPeepers

Do you think pacifism has an element of cowardice to it?
Or is it the more courageous choice?


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13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/18/09 - 11:44:40 AM EST (GMT-5)
Just a bit.
But I think mainly it's the way to go.
I think it really depends on what you're going to fight about.
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/18/09 - 11:46:36 AM EST (GMT-5)
I don't think it's courageous or cowardly. I don't think bravery plays into it at all.
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/18/09 - 11:58:20 AM EST (GMT-5)
I think it's more brave...that being said it's less effective and I choose the other way.
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/18/09 - 12:53:49 PM EST (GMT-5)
not necessarily-don't assume that someone couldn't beat you to a pulp just because they choose to walk away
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/18/09 - 1:14:15 PM EST (GMT-5)
It can be used as an excuse to be cowardly, but usually it is a brave move to make.
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/18/09 - 2:16:24 PM EST (GMT-5)
No, it's more like a bit of common sense. Violence makes no sense.
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/18/09 - 2:25:21 PM EST (GMT-5)
Quite the opposite. Violence seems like the cowardly way out of (or, more often into an even worse) situation.
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Sunday 4/19/09 - 1:57:21 AM EST (GMT-5)
Well black and white answers dont resolve this point pacifisim is foolish but not cowardice, Violence is also not cowardly but might not be courageaus, so i would say its a debateble subject that has no yes or no
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Monday 4/20/09 - 1:57:40 AM EST (GMT-5)
Violence doesn't solve anything except in video games. Plus I have more pieces of clothing and jewelry with peace signs than anyone I know, but what kind of awesome symbol is there for violence and war? I mean, who wants to walk around in a hoodie covered with pictures of hand grenades or guns? You'd probably get arrested! (By the Fashion Police at least... ooh, burn.)
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Monday 4/20/09 - 8:02:20 AM EST (GMT-5)
It does, but so does violence.
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Monday 4/20/09 - 8:06:08 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 4/20/09 - 8:02:20 AM Koto wrote:
It does, but so does violence.


if a woman was drunk and screaming trying to hit me, trying to start a fight and I choose to walk away rather than punch her in the face where is the element of cowardice?
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Monday 4/20/09 - 5:49:41 PM EST (GMT-5)
The easiest way to prove that the "pacifism is cowardly and not courageous" statement is wrong is by giving the British pacifists during WW1 as an example.
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Tuesday 4/21/09 - 9:21:17 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 4/20/09 - 8:02:20 AM Koto wrote:
It does, but so does violence.
On Monday 4/20/09 - 8:06:08 AM glennh70 wrote:
if a woman was drunk and screaming trying to hit me, trying to start a fight and I choose to walk away rather than punch her in the face where is the element of cowardice?

There's elements in both violence and pacifism. I personally think violence is the more cowardly way out, but there ARE elements in both.
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Tuesday 4/21/09 - 10:12:03 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 4/20/09 - 8:02:20 AM Koto wrote:
It does, but so does violence.
On Monday 4/20/09 - 8:06:08 AM glennh70 wrote:
if a woman was drunk and screaming trying to hit me, trying to start a fight and I choose to walk away rather than punch her in the face where is the element of cowardice?
On Tuesday 4/21/09 - 9:21:17 AM Koto wrote:
There's elements in both violence and pacifism. I personally think violence is the more cowardly way out, but there ARE elements in both.


so what is the element in my example?
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Tuesday 4/21/09 - 10:20:04 AM EST (GMT-5)
I don't see why you would generally claim that there are elements in either really, at least not intrinsically. Surely, rather than any blanket explanation/specification, its a matter of different individuals' motivations for their actions (or lack of) in a given situation?

Someone may abstain from violence for cowardly reasons, as equally as someone may resort to violence out of cowardice, but it doesn't mean that its a requirement in either.
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Tuesday 4/21/09 - 11:14:00 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 4/21/09 - 10:20:04 AM Floor Demon wrote:
Surely, rather than any blanket explanation/specification, its a matter of different individuals' motivations for their actions (or lack of) in a given situation? Someone may abstain from violence for cowardly reasons, as equally as someone may resort to violence out of cowardice


Pacifism is more than lack of violence. It is a philosophy and way of life that where forgoing violence is the result of moral convictions; by saying one is a pacifist one is revealing the motivations for their actions and something of their belief system.

I think it would be rare that someone across the board abstain from violence (and spend significant amounts of time deciding what actually constitutes violence) out of fear. I would also be loathe to call such a person a pacifist as they have no moral or ethical objections to violence.
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Tuesday 4/21/09 - 11:21:26 AM EST (GMT-5)
Go try and drag a "pacifist" woman into a dark alley and see if she dosen't resist. I can understand those who avoid violence as I do, but there is a time to fight. There is even a time to throw the first punch.
13 yrs ago - Thursday 5/14/09 - 7:35:07 PM EST (GMT-5)
Perhaps in some cases. But that doesn't mean it's always so.



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