If California regulators get their way, auto makers may soon be forced to rewrite a cliché from the Ford Model T era and start telling customers they can have any color they want as long as it *isn’t* black. Some darker hues will be available in place of black, but right now they are indentified internally at paint suppliers with names such as “mud-puddle brown” and are truly ugly substitutes for today’s rich ebony hues. So buy a black car now, because soon they won’t be available or will look so putrid you won’t want one. And that’s too bad, because paint suppliers say black is the second- or third-most popular vehicle color around the world. Because about 17 other states tend to follow California’s regulatory lead, as many as 40% of the vehicles sold in the U.S. could be impacted by the proposed directive.. http://wardsauto.com/commentary/cool_paints_ugly_090324/ Question Who's Online | Find Members | Private Messages
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3,670 hits 4.0 (1 vote) Share Favorite | Flag 13 years ago by KikiPeepers

Should California, and other states, ban black cars to help the environment?
If California regulators get their way, auto makers may soon be forced to rewrite a cliché from the Ford Model T era and start telling customers they can have any color they want as long as it *isn’t* black. Some darker hues will be available in place of black, but right now they are indentified internally at paint suppliers with names such as “mud-puddle brown” and are truly ugly substitutes for today’s rich ebony hues.

So buy a black car now, because soon they won’t be available or will look so putrid you won’t want one. And that’s too bad, because paint suppliers say black is the second- or third-most popular vehicle color around the world. Because about 17 other states tend to follow California’s regulatory lead, as many as 40% of the vehicles sold in the U.S. could be impacted by the proposed directive..

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13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Wednesday 3/25/09 - 10:48:37 PM EST (GMT-5)
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no! that's ridiculous! people should be allowed to have whatever color car they want.
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Wednesday 3/25/09 - 11:57:39 PM EST (GMT-5)
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How is it helping the environment again?
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 3/26/09 - 12:01:22 AM EST (GMT-5)
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-Why not just require tinted windows?

-My corolla with the ac blasting is still more fuel efficient than a suburban without it, so why should I be penalized?
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 3/26/09 - 12:04:57 AM EST (GMT-5)
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That really makes little scene, but that's government for you.
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 3/26/09 - 12:08:48 AM EST (GMT-5)
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I propose a remodeled transportation system where the personal vehicle gets left behind with the Flinstones self-propelled car.

Soon, my pretties ... soon
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 3/26/09 - 2:59:07 AM EST (GMT-5)
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No that would be racist.
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 3/26/09 - 10:47:33 AM EST (GMT-5)
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On Wednesday 3/25/09 - 11:57:39 PM Macarena. wrote:
How is it helping the environment again?


RTA
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 3/26/09 - 11:21:44 AM EST (GMT-5)
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On Wednesday 3/25/09 - 11:57:39 PM Macarena. wrote:
How is it helping the environment again?
On Thursday 3/26/09 - 10:47:33 AM KikiPeepers wrote:
RTA


You should have put that part of the article in the blurb.
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 3/26/09 - 12:32:23 PM EST (GMT-5)
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NOOOOOOOO
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 3/26/09 - 1:36:47 PM EST (GMT-5)
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On Thursday 3/26/09 - 12:04:57 AM Rigger_ar42 wrote:
That really makes little scene, but that's government for you.

13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 3/26/09 - 1:39:08 PM EST (GMT-5)
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drating nannying government.
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 3/26/09 - 2:26:26 PM EST (GMT-5)
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On Wednesday 3/25/09 - 11:57:39 PM Macarena. wrote:
How is it helping the environment again?


From the article:

The rationale goes like this: Vehicle AC units sap engine power and hurt fuel economy. If vehicle paint and glass reflect more heat, car interiors will be cooler. That means drivers will use their AC units less, the compressors won’t have to work as hard and auto makers will be able to use smaller AC units in the future.
Reflective coatings and glazing (glass) already have proven to save energy when used on buildings, and this legislation is based on architectural standards.
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 3/26/09 - 2:28:42 PM EST (GMT-5)
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Ban 'black' cars? Sounds racist as hell. We need more black cars to promote diversity, ban white cars instead because everything white is evil.
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 3/26/09 - 2:32:08 PM EST (GMT-5)
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Maybe if California used some of the tax money from gas for road construction like they are supposed to there would be less cars idling and less pollution. That sounds better to me than limiting people's car color choices.
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 3/26/09 - 2:40:40 PM EST (GMT-5)
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On Thursday 3/26/09 - 2:26:26 PM Wanderer wrote:
From the article: The rationale goes like this: Vehicle AC units sap engine power and hurt fuel economy. If vehicle paint and glass reflect more heat, car interiors will be cooler. That means drivers will use their AC units less, the compressors won’t have to work as hard and auto makers will be able to use smaller AC units in the future. Reflective coatings and glazing (glass) already have proven to save energy when used on buildings, and this legislation is based on architectural standards.


Cars have much less surface area absorbing heat than buildings do- - how much less will the AC compressors really have to work?

13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 3/26/09 - 3:48:08 PM EST (GMT-5)
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Oh boo-hoo my car colour choices will be limited, the gov't is trampling on my rights again.

It's a f*cking car, get over it.
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 3/26/09 - 3:59:04 PM EST (GMT-5)
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What a stupid law.

They will outlaw cars but not do anything when companies dump waste into the ocean?
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 3/26/09 - 3:59:54 PM EST (GMT-5)
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On Thursday 3/26/09 - 3:59:04 PM kickass9 wrote:
What a stupid law. They will outlaw cars but not do anything when companies dump waste into the ocean?


By cars I mean black cars.
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 3/26/09 - 4:10:10 PM EST (GMT-5)
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On Thursday 3/26/09 - 3:48:08 PM mynameismike wrote:
Oh boo-hoo my car colour choices will be limited, the gov't is trampling on my rights again. It's a f*cking car, get over it.


It's a little bigger than simply having car color choices.

Maybe you want the government legislating minute detail, but I don't.
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 3/26/09 - 4:23:25 PM EST (GMT-5)
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On Thursday 3/26/09 - 3:59:04 PM kickass9 wrote:
What a stupid law. They will outlaw cars but not do anything when companies dump waste into the ocean?
On Thursday 3/26/09 - 3:59:54 PM kickass9 wrote:
By cars I mean black cars.

i agree.i want my first car(and possibly every other car i get) to be black.
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 3/26/09 - 9:28:26 PM EST (GMT-5)
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On Thursday 3/26/09 - 3:48:08 PM mynameismike wrote:
Oh boo-hoo my car colour choices will be limited, the gov't is trampling on my rights again. It's a f*cking car, get over it.
On Thursday 3/26/09 - 4:10:10 PM JackB wrote:
It's a little bigger than simply having car color choices. Maybe you want the government legislating minute detail, but I don't.

I don't think the environment is a minute detail.

There's a long road between banning black cars and fascism.
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 3/26/09 - 9:33:27 PM EST (GMT-5)
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Do you think it's possible that I meant the color of the car is a minute detail instead of the environment?

13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 3/26/09 - 9:35:55 PM EST (GMT-5)
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On Thursday 3/26/09 - 9:33:27 PM JackB wrote:
Do you think it's possible that I meant the color of the car is a minute detail instead of the environment?

Except this legislation isn't *about* colour, it's *about* the environment through the avenue of car colour.
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 3/26/09 - 9:37:26 PM EST (GMT-5)
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And they are legislating minute details.

It's bullsh*t, and I don't agree with it.
13 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 3/26/09 - 9:45:58 PM EST (GMT-5)
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Even considering this law is a waste of time. There are much more obvious ways to drastically help the envirement. If people really wanted their cars black, they would end up painting them after they buy it.

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