Palin, no matter how you slice it, will not represent women when it comes to the issues that feminists from every stripe and for every decade have worked to promote. And to add insult to injury, it could not be more obvious that Sarah Palin is being used by the men in her own party to galvanize disgruntled female voters. Is there anyone out there who could argue with a straight face that Palin would have been picked if she'd been a man?

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873 hits 4.0 (1 vote) Share Favorite | Flag 14 years ago by KikiPeepers

Would Sarah Palin have been picked as McCain's VP nomination if she was a man?
Palin, no matter how you slice it, will not represent women when it comes to the issues that feminists from every stripe and for every decade have worked to promote. And to add insult to injury, it could not be more obvious that Sarah Palin is being used by the men in her own party to galvanize disgruntled female voters. Is there anyone out there who could argue with a straight face that Palin would have been picked if she'd been a man?

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14 yrs ago - Friday 9/19/08 - 1:20:03 PM EST (GMT-5)
No way in hell.
14 yrs ago - Friday 9/19/08 - 9:15:13 PM EST (GMT-5)
Would Obama be getting any support in the Democratic party if he was white?
14 yrs ago - Friday 9/19/08 - 9:33:31 PM EST (GMT-5)
"Palin, no matter how you slice it, will not represent women when it comes to the issues that feminists from every stripe and for every decade have worked to promote."

Are you saying that Palin doesn't deserve to be a woman because she doesn't think that Abortion is not a Right?
14 yrs ago - Friday 9/19/08 - 9:36:00 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 9/19/08 - 9:15:13 PM lsu90 wrote:
Would Obama be getting any support in the Democratic party if he was white?


Umm.... quite possibly?
14 yrs ago - Friday 9/19/08 - 9:38:27 PM EST (GMT-5)
Doesn't deserve to be a woman is reaching...doesn't deserve to be called a feminist, at least.

Though I would say that has less to do with her being pro-life, and more to do with things like making rape victims pay for their rape kits, protecting work-place discrimination, that sort of thing
14 yrs ago - Friday 9/19/08 - 9:43:46 PM EST (GMT-5)
Protecting workplace discrimination? I haven't heard that charge against her yet...
14 yrs ago - Friday 9/19/08 - 9:46:09 PM EST (GMT-5)
14 yrs ago - Friday 9/19/08 - 9:50:00 PM EST (GMT-5)
From your link:

"Palin spokeswoman Maria Comella issued this response: “For Barack Obama to accuse Gov. Sarah Palin of opposing equal opportunity for women, when she actually opposes the trial lawyers’ effort to overturn the longstanding statute of limitations in America’s courts - - is not only an absurd accusation, it’s a disgrace.” But if we're reading this statement correctly, this means that Palin backed the Supreme Court's 5-4 majority decision that invalidated Lily Ledbetter's equal-pay lawsuit."
14 yrs ago - Friday 9/19/08 - 9:51:40 PM EST (GMT-5)
It seems that the statute of limitations ran out on that case and Palin agreed that it was inappropriate for the case to be tried after that date...
14 yrs ago - Friday 9/19/08 - 9:54:02 PM EST (GMT-5)
...and thus protecting workplace discrimination.
14 yrs ago - Friday 9/19/08 - 9:59:25 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 9/19/08 - 9:54:02 PM Kungfullama wrote:
...and thus protecting workplace discrimination.


The same principle would have applied if it were a lawsuit about any other matter. It doesn't mean that Palin favors workplace discrimination. It shows that she respects the laws and the legal system...
14 yrs ago - Friday 9/19/08 - 10:00:49 PM EST (GMT-5)
How fair is it if we can arbitrarily decide when the statute of limitations applies and when it doesn't?
14 yrs ago - Friday 9/19/08 - 10:38:08 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 9/19/08 - 9:15:13 PM lsu90 wrote:
Would Obama be getting any support in the Democratic party if he was white?

I have yet to see any evidence whatsoever that anything remotely appealing about Obama is connected to his race. I haven't even seen that rumor anywhere.

Now, can you answer the question? It's only fair. You were asked first and I did humor you enough to let your question jump in line. Please be thorough. Would Palin have been nominated if she had been male? Additionally, since your line-jumping entitles me to ask a 2nd question, would McCain have bothered trying to sneak a woman past everyone if Obama had already locked that up with Hillary as his VP? Or would McCain have cut and run straight away with another White male?
14 yrs ago - Friday 9/19/08 - 10:41:08 PM EST (GMT-5)
Palin, no matter how you slice it, will not represent women when it comes to the issues that feminists from every stripe and for every decade have worked to promote.

That's why she is the alpha female of the Republican party, duh.
14 yrs ago - Friday 9/19/08 - 10:45:21 PM EST (GMT-5)
I agree w/ CD insofar as Palin cannot *yet* be seen as supportive of workplace discrimination b/c of the statue of limitations technicality. I wonder, though, if CD has the cajones to defend her beyond technicalities, b/c I think he is ultimately using that technicality to be evasive.

I also believe that women can be prolife and feminist at the same time. Some women of a prolife stance see acceptance of the natural consequences of your *choice* to have sex as a responsible thing to do, and that anything less than that harsh responsibility is demeaning to women, as if they are too frail to handle a lack of a bail-out, as represented by abortion. There's no, "Oops, tee-hee, I made a boo-boo" eye-fluttering for that brand of feminist.

CD is his usual, idiotic self when asking if Palin deserves to be a woman, though. Puh-lease.
14 yrs ago - Friday 9/19/08 - 11:35:59 PM EST (GMT-5)
For whatever reason, I'm hearing Volvo Driving Soccer Mom by Everclear, as I read these comments.
14 yrs ago - Saturday 9/20/08 - 1:51:45 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 9/19/08 - 10:45:21 PM IRLIteach wrote:
I agree w/ CD insofar as Palin cannot *yet* be seen as supportive of workplace discrimination b/c of the statue of limitations technicality. I wonder, though, if CD has the cajones to defend her beyond technicalities, b/c I think he is ultimately using that technicality to be evasive.


How am I being evasive? What is there to defend? Palin has never actually taken a stand against equal pay for women in the workplace. I defended her against that accusation by showing the questionable circumstances that the accusation was built on...



14 yrs ago - Saturday 9/20/08 - 2:26:50 PM EST (GMT-5)
You can put lipstick on a pig and on "hockey mom" but only one leaves a ring around... Your "collar".
14 yrs ago - Saturday 9/20/08 - 2:27:42 PM EST (GMT-5)
That doesn't make sense.
14 yrs ago - Saturday 9/20/08 - 3:31:57 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 9/19/08 - 9:33:31 PM CowDung wrote:
"Palin, no matter how you slice it, will not represent women when it comes to the issues that feminists from every stripe and for every decade have worked to promote." Are you saying that Palin doesn't deserve to be a woman because she doesn't think that Abortion is not a Right?


Who are you talking to? I don't think the author of the article is here. But I'm assuming that's not at all what they're saying - how'd you twist that one up so much?
14 yrs ago - Saturday 9/20/08 - 3:37:21 PM EST (GMT-5)
I can't really see this tandem going to the White House for any good reason. All politicians will do anything to be elected or re-elected.

Now if they follow through on their promises, then they're a good politician.
14 yrs ago - Saturday 9/20/08 - 8:11:13 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Saturday 9/20/08 - 1:51:45 PM CowDung wrote:
How am I being evasive? What is there to defend? Palin has never actually taken a stand against equal pay for women in the workplace. I defended her against that accusation by showing the questionable circumstances that the accusation was built on...

You're always being evasive. Why not defend her feminism otehr than on a technicality? What does she do that defends women? Be sure to make your case for it if you're going to cite anything that isn't commonly accepted as such. If you don't know what that includes, which wouldn't surprise me, you really shouldn't be having conversations w/ other human beings about this yet. You should take a "Conversational English" class at your local community college instead.
14 yrs ago - Saturday 9/20/08 - 9:42:17 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 9/19/08 - 9:33:31 PM CowDung wrote:
"Palin, no matter how you slice it, will not represent women when it comes to the issues that feminists from every stripe and for every decade have worked to promote." Are you saying that Palin doesn't deserve to be a woman because she doesn't think that Abortion is not a Right?
On Saturday 9/20/08 - 3:31:57 PM KikiPeepers wrote:
Who are you talking to? I don't think the author of the article is here. But I'm assuming that's not at all what they're saying - how'd you twist that one up so much?


Because I had no idea what the story was supposed to mean and how it tied into the question...
14 yrs ago - Saturday 9/20/08 - 9:45:24 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Saturday 9/20/08 - 8:11:13 PM IRLIteach wrote:
You're always being evasive. Why not defend her feminism otehr than on a technicality? What does she do that defends women? Be sure to make your case for it if you're going to cite anything that isn't commonly accepted as such. If you don't know what that includes, which wouldn't surprise me, you really shouldn't be having conversations w/ other human beings about this yet. You should take a "Conversational English" class at your local community college instead.


I didn't realize that I was supposed to be defending Palin's "feminism". I was responding directly to the accusation that she was against equal pay for women because of her stance on the single court case in the post.

14 yrs ago - Sunday 9/21/08 - 12:25:42 AM EST (GMT-5)
Okaaaaaaay. So, defend it now.

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