At the 1994 annual awards dinner given by the American Association for Forensic Science, AAFS President Don Harper Mills astounded his audience in San Diego with the legal complications of a strange death. Here is the story: 

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Should this case have been ruled a suicide, or a homicide?
At the 1994 annual awards dinner given by the American Association for Forensic Science, AAFS President Don Harper Mills astounded his audience in San Diego with the legal complications of a strange death. Here is the story:

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14 yrs ago - Tuesday 9/9/08 - 3:03:00 AM EST (GMT-5)
Accidental homicide, I guess. But it's a hard one.
14 yrs ago - Tuesday 9/9/08 - 9:55:59 AM EST (GMT-5)
opus didnt kill himself, that other guy did
14 yrs ago - Tuesday 9/9/08 - 10:51:03 AM EST (GMT-5)
lol, that was a pretty interesing story
14 yrs ago - Tuesday 9/9/08 - 11:10:02 AM EST (GMT-5)
I wonder how long people will argue over this urban legend?
14 yrs ago - Tuesday 9/9/08 - 12:35:46 PM EST (GMT-5)
That is pretty unbelievable.
14 yrs ago - Tuesday 9/9/08 - 12:50:05 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 9/9/08 - 11:10:02 AM mynameismike wrote:
I wonder how long people will argue over this urban legend?

Me too. I found this story on snopes.com a couple of years ago. Not to mention the urban legend section of the Darwin Awards site.
14 yrs ago - Tuesday 9/9/08 - 1:50:12 PM EST (GMT-5)
If a story sounds too good to be true, it usually is...
14 yrs ago - Tuesday 9/9/08 - 1:53:33 PM EST (GMT-5)
Taking it though if it was real.

just because Opus loaded his father's gun, does not make him solely responsible for whoever fired that gun. The father was just as responsible for criminal negligence, though not to the same degree.
14 yrs ago - Tuesday 9/9/08 - 3:48:31 PM EST (GMT-5)
you can't class killin ur self thr ur own actions is homicide he killed himself when he jumped out the window he intentially tried to kill himself of course it wouldn't happened cuz of the saftey net but if he didn't jump he wouldn't have been shot so by the going through the act of suicide he died so that way he commited suicde i read this case 2 years back and held a simlair debate
14 yrs ago - Tuesday 9/9/08 - 3:52:43 PM EST (GMT-5)
The fall didn't kill him. End of story. Accidental homicide maybe but homicide nonetheless.
14 yrs ago - Tuesday 9/9/08 - 6:51:16 PM EST (GMT-5)
That is the most hilarious thing I have ever heard. I'm not even going to bother answering the question.

Nice one, Kiki.
14 yrs ago - Tuesday 9/9/08 - 8:59:30 PM EST (GMT-5)
"Ordinarily," Dr Mills continued, "a person who sets out to commit suicide ultimately succeeds, even though the mechanism might not be what he intended."

Opus tried to commit suicide by jumping off the building. Opus also loaded the shotgun that killed him - regardless of the fact that he intended the victim of the shotgun to be his mother - he is the one who loaded the shotgun.

Thus, this would be a suicide - Opus jumped off the roof intending to die, and Opus loaded the gun which ultimately killed him.

Suicide - via a conveluted route.
13 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Saturday 1/31/09 - 12:02:27 PM EST (GMT-5)
Wow that's f*cked, this can't be true. What are the chances of that happening, really? But I feel this is suicide...even if the fall wouldn't have killed him, he wanted to die anyway. I think since he actually "jumped" that counts as suicide regardless of how he died (during the fall or hitting the ground) but if he didn't jump and was shot off the roof then that's homicide. Hard to say I guess...I wouldn't think too much into it...
13 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Saturday 1/31/09 - 12:22:39 PM EST (GMT-5)
Surely it was manslaughter? Regardless of Opus's wish to die, it was not his action of jumping off the building that killed him it was the gunshot. The old dude shouldn't have been waving the gun ablout especially without checking it was loaded. He did plan to kill anyone therfore it was manslaughter in my opinion.
13 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Sunday 2/1/09 - 1:37:55 PM EST (GMT-5)
^^ Opus is the one who placed the shot in the gun, and Opus is the one that the gun killed. The old man had no reason to think there was shot in the gun.

On Saturday 1/31/09 - 12:02:27 PM Guardian_E wrote:
Wow that's f*cked, this can't be true. What are the chances of that happening, really?


It isn't true - it's a thought exercise.



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