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2,798 hits Rate me! Share Favorite | Flag 13 years ago by KikiPeepers

If you believe in evolution, do you believe humans have evolved into their final form?


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13 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Sunday 7/13/08 - 8:27:30 PM EST (GMT-5)
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13 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Sunday 7/13/08 - 8:33:39 PM EST (GMT-5)
No, I don't think any species ever reaches a final form and stops evolving. But with modern medicine and technology, we've pretty much stopped evolution for ourselves.

Oh and anthrax - Way to contribute.
13 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Sunday 7/13/08 - 9:18:23 PM EST (GMT-5)
No. On an episode of Phil of the Future (baby show, but who cares) it was shown that Phil and his family don't have a little right? toe. He said that the toe evolved out. I can absolutely see something like that happening.
13 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Sunday 7/13/08 - 9:50:57 PM EST (GMT-5)
Evolution relies on natural selection, which we have pretty much stopped in its tracks. These days the stupid humans are saved by the others - so if this isn't our final form, we're only going to get worse.
13 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Sunday 7/13/08 - 9:55:32 PM EST (GMT-5)
i dont believe in evolution, so no.
13 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Sunday 7/13/08 - 10:00:36 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Sunday 7/13/08 - 9:50:57 PM Qpax wrote:
Evolution relies on natural selection, which we have pretty much stopped in its tracks. These days the stupid humans are saved by the others - so if this isn't our final form, we're only going to get worse.

Darwin Awards

given to people without children (or in one case, a guy and his only child, who had no children) who either sterilize themselves or kill themselves, in a very spectacular way

imagine a guy trying to open a grenade with a chainsaw
13 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Sunday 7/13/08 - 10:01:16 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Sunday 7/13/08 - 9:55:32 PM juliewillard wrote:
i dont believe in evolution, so no.

can you give a secular reason not to believe in evolution
13 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Tuesday 7/15/08 - 4:04:53 AM EST (GMT-5)
i personally think evolution is a real dumb idea in itself especially when it comes to humans!
13 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Tuesday 7/15/08 - 4:06:26 AM EST (GMT-5)
Nope, it'll end up being like Heroes. SAVE THE CHEERLEADER SAVE THE WORLD!
13 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Tuesday 7/15/08 - 4:29:23 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Sunday 7/13/08 - 9:55:32 PM juliewillard wrote:
i dont believe in evolution, so no.
On Sunday 7/13/08 - 10:01:16 PM anthraxrocks wrote:
can you give a secular reason not to believe in evolution


perhaps lack of evidence that we evolved all the way from invertebrates-that kind of macroevolution

anyway no I don't think any species reaches its final form until it is extinct-we will keep changing to fit our surroundings. Every man that chooses a pretty girl to mate with over an ugly alternative is driving evolution.
13 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Tuesday 7/15/08 - 4:39:01 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Sunday 7/13/08 - 9:55:32 PM juliewillard wrote:
i dont believe in evolution, so no.

So did Satan put the fossils in the ground?
13 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Tuesday 7/15/08 - 4:48:27 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Sunday 7/13/08 - 9:55:32 PM juliewillard wrote:
i dont believe in evolution, so no.

So wouldn't your answer be "yes, humans are in their final form"?
13 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Tuesday 7/15/08 - 4:50:03 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Sunday 7/13/08 - 9:55:32 PM juliewillard wrote:
i dont believe in evolution, so no.
On Tuesday 7/15/08 - 4:48:27 AM Boom-Down wrote:
So wouldn't your answer be "yes, humans are in their final form"?


the question says they have *evolved into their final form*
13 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Tuesday 7/15/08 - 4:51:49 AM EST (GMT-5)
Evolution hasn't stopped.

It's just choosing with different parameters now than it was 10.000 years or 10.000.000 years ago.
13 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Tuesday 7/15/08 - 5:18:13 AM EST (GMT-5)
We certainly have not stopped natural selection.

As for the question, it's unqualified. Either you can say that whatever form a species is in now is its "final" form (simply by virtue of being the latest), or you can deny that there are final forms (I take this position). Both of these responses make the point that evolution never stops, and any point in a species history is transitional.
13 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Tuesday 7/15/08 - 5:30:54 AM EST (GMT-5)
....82%?...really.?...I'm glad to hear that..^_^....
13 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Tuesday 7/15/08 - 6:11:31 AM EST (GMT-5)
I don't think natural selection is necessarily "natural" anymore...people who have "bad" genes can survive to reproduce now. I'm no biologist, but I think natural selection is happening in a very different way.

I don't know how plausible it is to suggest that eventually there could be unnatural or artificial selection? Eugenic-lite stuff happening, perhaps? Some more informed YTer could enlighten us.

However, I don't think that evolution has stopped or that there is a "final form".

This question is odd - it's almost like it is presupposing that something turns into something else, i.e. that the human race evolves progressively - this question doesn't really reflect common ancestry...
13 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Tuesday 7/15/08 - 9:50:58 AM EST (GMT-5)
Haha have you seen Idiocracy? So funny.

I think that "final stage" would just put us on the edge of extinction. Which is what comes after watering your crops with brawndo I guess.
13 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Tuesday 7/15/08 - 10:46:20 AM EST (GMT-5)

13 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Tuesday 7/15/08 - 9:45:46 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Sunday 7/13/08 - 9:55:32 PM juliewillard wrote:
i dont believe in evolution, so no.
On Sunday 7/13/08 - 10:01:16 PM anthraxrocks wrote:
can you give a secular reason not to believe in evolution
On Tuesday 7/15/08 - 4:29:23 AM glennh70 wrote:
perhaps lack of evidence that we evolved all the way from invertebrates-that kind of macroevolution anyway no I don't think any species reaches its final form until it is extinct-we will keep changing to fit our surroundings. Every man that chooses a pretty girl to mate with over an ugly alternative is driving evolution.

the term "macroevolution" is a creationist invention
13 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Wednesday 7/16/08 - 10:10:45 AM EST (GMT-5)
this guy was a creationist?

'Russian Entomologist Yuri Filipchenko (or Philipchenko, depending on the transliteration) first coined the terms "macroevolution" and "microevolution" in 1927 in his German language work, "Variabilit├Ąt und Variation"'

13 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Wednesday 7/16/08 - 4:28:08 PM EST (GMT-5)
No, cos next we is going to get wings and it's going to be mad.
13 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Wednesday 7/16/08 - 5:45:32 PM EST (GMT-5)
This damn well better not be our 'final' form. We'll need to do some more evolving to survive the swarms of idiots we have today and the great environmental collapse which is more or less unavoidable at this point.
13 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Wednesday 7/16/08 - 5:50:19 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 7/16/08 - 10:10:45 AM glennh70 wrote:
this guy was a creationist? 'Russian Entomologist Yuri Filipchenko (or Philipchenko, depending on the transliteration) first coined the terms "macroevolution" and "microevolution" in 1927 in his German language work, "Variabilit├Ąt und Variation"'


The "distinction" does, on occasion, get made in textbooks on the subject, but it's unusual, though it can be useful. Nevertheless, it's effectively an arbitrary distinction (as, appropriately enough, is the species distinction), and creationists have yet to make any sort of a case for why the "macroevolution" boundary between species cannot be broken.
13 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Friday 7/18/08 - 10:39:47 AM EST (GMT-5)
Evolution....bullcrap

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