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Are you a perdurantist or endurantist?
Endurantists believe people and things are the same things throughout the whole of their existence while perdurantists believe at every moment they are different, like frames of a movie.


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14 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Tuesday 8/28/07 - 4:08:07 PM EST (GMT-5)
I made up perdurantism for myself one day and just recently found out what it's called. I thought I might've been the first to think of it because I'd never heard of it before.
14 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Sunday 9/2/07 - 1:28:52 PM EST (GMT-5)
i dont get it
14 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Sunday 9/2/07 - 5:01:53 PM EST (GMT-5)
It doesn't matter how we think we perceive reality because it is in a constant state of change.
14 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Sunday 9/2/07 - 5:35:24 PM EST (GMT-5)
I'm a perdurantist. My thoughts, opinions, relationships are ever shifting and fluid. The only constant with my opinions, is that there is no real constant.
14 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Sunday 9/2/07 - 6:04:54 PM EST (GMT-5)
um, probably and pendurantist, i think
14 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Sunday 9/2/07 - 6:52:50 PM EST (GMT-5)
Funny, I was thinking about this yesterday. But I didn't come to a conclusion.
14 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Sunday 9/2/07 - 10:00:22 PM EST (GMT-5)
definatly a penduranitist. things are constantly changing, i see no other way
14 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Sunday 9/2/07 - 10:07:08 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 9/2/2007 1:28:53 PM sk8er10 wrote:
i dont get it

The definitions are written in plain English, what don't you get?

Anyway, I'm pretty sure I'm a endurantist.

14 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Monday 9/3/07 - 5:26:16 AM EST (GMT-5)
Endurantism makes more sense to me personally, but I'm still slightly confused.
14 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Wednesday 9/5/07 - 2:24:29 PM EST (GMT-5)
I would say both. Although my thoughts are fluid and so are my relationships and many elements of my day to day experience. I still possess a body and the earth is still in existence. The sun will rise tomorrow for my existence etc.
14 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Wednesday 9/5/07 - 2:33:24 PM EST (GMT-5)
Huh. I'd definitely say I'm more of a perduranist. Things change all the time.
14 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Wednesday 9/5/07 - 6:11:17 PM EST (GMT-5)
You can never step in the same river twice.
14 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Wednesday 9/5/07 - 6:21:34 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 9/5/2007 6:11:17 PM greegor wrote:
You can never step in the same river twice.
But can you step in the same box twice?
14 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Wednesday 9/5/07 - 9:56:15 PM EST (GMT-5)
the second time u step in the box, itd be a box that was stepped in. Is he still spider-pig when walking on the floor?
14 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Friday 9/7/07 - 2:29:33 AM EST (GMT-5)
Mm, this question excites me almost as much as the time I discovered I would no doubt back Parmenides in one of his arguments. I hereby select Endurantist; the WHOLE of the existence is the key here. No parts, as most subjectively oriented reasoning would have it. The frame is the subdivision of time, and it's just as much a whole as any broader whole, which can't be measured anyway. There doesn't seem to be any real meat to the perdurantist side. But that's just me... because I am crazy nuts like that.
14 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Saturday 9/8/07 - 1:10:20 AM EST (GMT-5)
honestly, I'm sick of seeing this question every 2 minutes!
14 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Saturday 9/8/07 - 12:12:17 PM EST (GMT-5)
endurantist. everything living is always changing.
14 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Saturday 9/8/07 - 11:45:33 PM EST (GMT-5)
I can be a bit of both at times, just depends on how cynical I'm feeling.
13 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Thursday 5/1/08 - 11:29:29 PM EST (GMT-5)
I've seen things from both perspectives at different points in my life.



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