For those who haven’t seen them, the gist is the men’s room sign has large print that reads “Ladies” and smaller text clarifying they shouldn’t go in there because it’s the men’s room — vice-versa for the other bathroom.     
But not everyone sees the humor, and the signs have been removed by order of the Florida Department of Business and Professional Regulation. The agency threatened McGuire’s with closure for a six-word violation — “Lack of signage properly designating bathrooms.”
      
The signs have been up for 10 years without a problem and for 30 years in the Pensacola restaurant, but a complaint filed last month forced them down. The complaint came from a father who said a college-age man walked in on his 15-year-old daughter. The man said in his complaint that his daughter was embarrassed and left the restaurant crying. 'I personally cannot sit back and let this happen to other people’s children and wives any longer,” the complaint read.

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Should restroom markers such as these be illegal?
For those who haven’t seen them, the gist is the men’s room sign has large print that reads “Ladies” and smaller text clarifying they shouldn’t go in there because it’s the men’s room — vice-versa for the other bathroom.

But not everyone sees the humor, and the signs have been removed by order of the Florida Department of Business and Professional Regulation. The agency threatened McGuire’s with closure for a six-word violation — “Lack of signage properly designating bathrooms.”

The signs have been up for 10 years without a problem and for 30 years in the Pensacola restaurant, but a complaint filed last month forced them down. The complaint came from a father who said a college-age man walked in on his 15-year-old daughter. The man said in his complaint that his daughter was embarrassed and left the restaurant crying. `I personally cannot sit back and let this happen to other people’s children and wives any longer,” the complaint read.

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14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 5/28/07 - 1:33:16 PM EST (GMT-5)
I think that some people would be confused so it's not a really good idea.
14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 5/28/07 - 2:57:49 PM EST (GMT-5)
Illegal? No, but it'd still be rather stupid to use them.
14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Tuesday 5/29/07 - 7:16:01 PM EST (GMT-5)
They need fixed so it is more clear. This is in Florida and people are confused enough down there about who they are voting for, let alone which bathroom to go into.
14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Tuesday 5/29/07 - 7:22:34 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 5/28/2007 2:57:50 PM chikoori wrote:
Illegal? No, but it'd still be rather stupid to use them.

Ok, so it should be legal to create a situation described above? You approve of college age men walking in on 15 yr old girls while they are in states of undress?

Wow.

14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Tuesday 5/29/07 - 7:27:12 PM EST (GMT-5)
No, but it will confuse a lot of people.
14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Tuesday 5/29/07 - 7:31:04 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 5/29/2007 7:22:35 PM dacash wrote:
On 5/28/2007 2:57:50 PM chikoori wrote: Illegal? No, but it'd still be rather stupid to use them. Ok, so it should be legal to create a situation described above? You approve of college age men walking in on 15 yr old girls while they are in states of undress? Wow.

A 15 year old should know to lock the door when in a public bathroom.

I don't think it should be illegal either. In poor taste perhaps, seeing as it can easily confuse people. I still think they are clever though.

14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Tuesday 5/29/07 - 7:31:33 PM EST (GMT-5)
While I agree they should be taken down, I also think that as a society we make too big a deal about gender. A lot of public restrooms in Europe are not gender specific. Maybe gender equalitly would come more quickly if they weren't as segregated in everyday life.
14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Tuesday 5/29/07 - 7:42:28 PM EST (GMT-5)
And the ones I've seen in Europe have individual doors that lock. I don't see forcing that kind of change on a 15 yr old girl being wise. Nor can imagine really wanting to be 'more like Europe'. Is that really what you want?

Not all bathroom stalls have locks, Res. Almost none of the ones I know of in the US do.

But in not seeing as to why it should be illegal; you don't think that deliberately causing confusion that could lead to what is statutory rape is wrong to the point of being illegal? Why don't you?

14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Tuesday 5/29/07 - 7:45:02 PM EST (GMT-5)
Not illegal, but I do think they are stupid.
14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Tuesday 5/29/07 - 7:51:35 PM EST (GMT-5)
'Not all bathroom stalls have locks, Res. Almost none of the ones I know of in the US do.'

Then perhaps the US should invest in doors that lock when in a public building.

Plus it doesn't seem like anything bad has happened before this. They have been up for 10 years and 30 in an other place.

14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Tuesday 5/29/07 - 7:55:40 PM EST (GMT-5)
It is embarrassing no matter who walks in on you, man or woman.

And most public restrooms I have been in DO have locks, but they are small enough such that if a college-aged man wanted to rape a 15 year old, judging by the fact that he is willing to break the law and harm a young girl sexually, he wouldnt have a problem disregarding whatever sign is on the door and just breaking the lock. If common decency, and possible jail time doesnt stop him, I don't think the sign on the door would.

Accidents happen, and given the social norms of our society, I'd say the signs should be more clear. On the other hand I think it would be better if our society didn't make such a big deal about gender segregation. Maybe raising our children in an environment where gender is less segregated would lead to better gender equality, and less sexual assult. But thats a big maybe.

14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Tuesday 5/29/07 - 10:05:27 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 5/29/2007 7:51:35 PM Res wrote:
'Not all bathroom stalls have locks, Res. Almost none of the ones I know of in the US do

I've been many, many places all over the US, and I've never once seen toilet stalls that didn't have a lock. Every now and then at a crappy place like a stadium there will be one where the lock is broken, but they all still have locks.

14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Tuesday 5/29/07 - 11:29:11 PM EST (GMT-5)
One time, I was at Lamberts (a sort of Southern country-fried eating establishment for those who don't know) and my dad went to go to the bathroom. Well, he went into what he thought was the men's bathroom only to find a whole buncha women.
Turns out the signs for the bathrooms read "Hen" and "Rooster", and my dad had mistakenly read Hen as Men
14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Tuesday 5/29/07 - 11:35:15 PM EST (GMT-5)
I know that had nothing to do with the article...
So here...
My answer is no, simply because I don't care to think that much at the moment.
14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Tuesday 5/29/07 - 11:41:00 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 5/29/2007 11:29:12 PM silentxem wrote:
One time, I was at Lamberts (a sort of Southern country-fried eating establishment for those who don't know) and my dad went to go to the bathroom. Well, he went into what he thought was the men's bathroom only to find a whole buncha women. Turns out the signs for the bathrooms read "Hen" and "Rooster", and my dad had mistakenly read Hen as Men

Oh no, quick make those signs illegal too

14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Tuesday 5/29/07 - 11:46:08 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 5/29/2007 7:31:05 PM Res wrote:
A 15 year old should know to lock the door when in a public bathroom.

Exactly!

On 5/29/2007 7:42:28 PM dacash wrote:
Not all bathroom stalls have locks, Res. Almost none of the ones I know of in the US do.

Huh? Are you kidding me? The only times I have ever seen public restroom stalls without locks is because the locks were broken.

14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 5/30/07 - 12:57:36 AM EST (GMT-5)
No, while I don't find the signs particularly funny, I think making them illegal is ridiculous.
On 5/29/2007 10:05:27 PM KikiPeepers wrote:
I've been many, many places all over the US, and I've never once seen toilet stalls that didn't have a lock. Every now and then at a crappy place like a stadium there will be one where the lock is broken, but they all still have locks.

Yeah, I don't know about men's bathrooms, but I have never been in a women's bathroom without a lock on the stall. (Though, as you mentioned, you do occasionally run into a broken lock, but that hardly counts.)
On 5/29/2007 7:42:28 PM dacash wrote:
But in not seeing as to why it should be illegal; you don't think that deliberately causing confusion that could lead to what is statutory rape is wrong to the point of being illegal? Why don't you?
Statutory rape? What in the situation described above counts as statutory rape?
14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 5/30/07 - 1:24:33 AM EST (GMT-5)
If people are walking in on young girls like that, then yeah it's wrong and should not be allowed.
14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 5/30/07 - 9:05:00 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 5/29/2007 10:05:27 PM KikiPeepers wrote:
On 5/29/2007 7:51:35 PM Res wrote: 'Not all bathroom stalls have locks, Res. Almost none of the ones I know of in the US do I've been many, many places all over the US, and I've never once seen toilet stalls that didn't have a lock. Every now and then at a crappy place like a stadium there will be one where the lock is broken, but they all still have locks.

Maybe in the womens room.


Burnt: Look up statutory rape. Intercourse doesn't have to take place. In fact, no contact has to take place in many states.

14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 5/30/07 - 9:07:42 AM EST (GMT-5)
I don't see how there's any question, of course they should be illegal.
14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 5/30/07 - 9:23:45 AM EST (GMT-5)
'But in not seeing as to why it should be illegal; you don't think that deliberately causing confusion that could lead to what is statutory rape is wrong to the point of being illegal? Why don't you?'

I really doubt the guy would say: 'Oh crap I'm in the wrong bathroom. Well while I'm here, I may as well rape this minor'

If a person has it set in their mind that they want to committ rape, it doesn't matter what the sign on the door says.

14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 5/30/07 - 9:36:13 AM EST (GMT-5)
"I really doubt the guy would say: 'Oh crap I'm in the wrong bathroom. Well while I'm here, I may as well rape this minor'"

Look up the definition of statutory rape, or, if that's too taxing, read the whole thread. Where I already wrote:
"Burnt: Look up statutory rape. Intercourse doesn't have to take place. In fact, no contact has to take place in many states."

14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 5/30/07 - 10:01:04 AM EST (GMT-5)
ffs I read the thread, saw your comment. Question is, have you looked it up?

Main Entry: statutory rape
Function: noun
: rape consisting of sexual intercourse with a person beneath an age (as 14 years) specified by statute
NOTE: Many state statutes also specify a minimum age of the perpetrator or an age differential (as at least four years) between the perpetrator and the victim. Consent of the victim and belief that the victim is of the age of consent are usually considered immaterial. Statutory rape is now codified under various names, such as rape in the second degree rape in the third degree unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor, and criminal sexual conduct in the second degree.
Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law, © 1996 Merriam-Webster, Inc.

Shall we look up sexual intercourse or is that clear for you?

14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 5/30/07 - 10:06:43 AM EST (GMT-5)
No need. In the state of NJ, where I lived as a young man, it was statutory rape for an 18 yr old to be in the same room with a 16 yr old who had removed her shoes. I realize that's a technicality, but I think you get the picture. I believe the law has changed since then. But are you telling me that there are no voyeur laws where you live?
14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 5/30/07 - 10:06:59 AM EST (GMT-5)
er, he accidentally walked in on her. it's not the end of the world, it's certainly not statutory rape.

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