An adjunct professor was fired after leading a classroom discussion about the Virginia Tech shootings in which he pointed a marker at some students and said 'pow.' The five-minute demonstration at Emmanuel College two days after a student killed 32 people on the Virginia Tech campus, included a discussion of gun control, whether to respond to violence with violence, and the public's 'celebration of victimhood,' said the professor, Nicholas Winset.

During the demonstration, Winset pretended to shoot some students. Then one student pretended to shoot Winset to illustrate his point that the gunman might have been stopped had another student or faculty member been armed. Winset said administrators had asked the faculty to engage students on the issue. But on Friday, he got a letter saying he was fired and ordering him to stay off campus.

Winset, 37, argued that the Catholic liberal arts school was stifling free discussion by firing him, and he said the move would have a 'chilling effect' on open debate. He posted an 18-minute video on the online site YouTube defending his action.

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Should this professor have been fired for his actions?
An adjunct professor was fired after leading a classroom discussion about the Virginia Tech shootings in which he pointed a marker at some students and said `pow.` The five-minute demonstration at Emmanuel College two days after a student killed 32 people on the Virginia Tech campus, included a discussion of gun control, whether to respond to violence with violence, and the public`s `celebration of victimhood,` said the professor, Nicholas Winset.

During the demonstration, Winset pretended to shoot some students. Then one student pretended to shoot Winset to illustrate his point that the gunman might have been stopped had another student or faculty member been armed. Winset said administrators had asked the faculty to engage students on the issue. But on Friday, he got a letter saying he was fired and ordering him to stay off campus.

Winset, 37, argued that the Catholic liberal arts school was stifling free discussion by firing him, and he said the move would have a `chilling effect` on open debate. He posted an 18-minute video on the online site YouTube defending his action.

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15 yrs ago - Wednesday 4/25/07 - 7:21:42 PM EST (GMT-5)
No, he was just setting an example on the gun control subject.
15 yrs ago - Saturday 4/28/07 - 3:57:15 PM EST (GMT-5)
Not fired, but was there any point in pretending to shoot people? People shouldn't be so caught up in the freedom of speech that they loose tact.
15 yrs ago - Saturday 4/28/07 - 4:14:34 PM EST (GMT-5)
we don't know if he was 'pretending to shoot people' for fun or making a point in class. It seems a bit much to fire someone.
15 yrs ago - Saturday 4/28/07 - 4:18:46 PM EST (GMT-5)
I can't see why he should be fired for that.
15 yrs ago - Saturday 4/28/07 - 4:38:07 PM EST (GMT-5)
He should of been disciplined, but not fired.
15 yrs ago - Saturday 4/28/07 - 4:50:03 PM EST (GMT-5)
I think he should be spoken to and made aware of complaints against him, but he definitely shouldn't have been fired.
15 yrs ago - Saturday 4/28/07 - 4:50:33 PM EST (GMT-5)
I'm surprised they can fire him, Academic Freedom being what it is. I certainly don't think he should be fired. Every single one of my profs talked about it. He chose to do so in a graphic manner, and that makes him effective, not insensitive.
15 yrs ago - Thursday 5/3/07 - 2:39:51 PM EST (GMT-5)
He certainly didn't deserve getting fired.
14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Thursday 6/14/07 - 2:45:35 PM EST (GMT-5)
No, that's bullsh*t. People are entirely too paranoid.
14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Thursday 6/14/07 - 3:02:55 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 4/25/2007 7:21:42 PM KikiPeepers wrote:
He posted an 18-minute video on the online site YouTube defending his action.

FIRST PART
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-cBKXyRv...

SECOND PART
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlJDyMXvs...

THIRD PART
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02JpWpMub...

FOURTH PART
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSFAZMMTb...

For those who are interested.

14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Thursday 6/14/07 - 3:13:39 PM EST (GMT-5)
Watch the second part at the four minute mark....he says he spanks himself in class....hmmmmm
14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Thursday 6/14/07 - 3:31:11 PM EST (GMT-5)
I think he should have been fired becuase he talks like an agent from the Matrix.
14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Thursday 6/14/07 - 4:01:27 PM EST (GMT-5)
I agree what the prof said about stifling an open debate. The whole point of higher education is to be able to tackle those tough subjects.
14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Friday 6/15/07 - 2:37:17 PM EST (GMT-5)
Wrong timing but not fired
14 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 7/25/07 - 3:59:40 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 6/14/2007 3:31:12 PM zombie wrote:
I think he should have been fired becuase he talks like an agent from the Matrix.

That made me laugh.

But in all seriousness? No. He expressed himself inappropriately, but it wasn't like he didn't mean well. He was trying to make a point.

14 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Tuesday 8/21/07 - 8:03:23 AM EST (GMT-5)
He made a point and the pussy school faculty couldn't take it. But hell, smacking down the minority is what society does best.
14 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Saturday 10/13/07 - 5:38:22 PM EST (GMT-5)
He definitely shouldn't have been fired. He was trying to make a point to the class, a point I can see easily. Using the marker as a prop, he was displaying exactly how easy it would be for someone with a gun to single out any of those students and end their lives. He was instilling a sense of realism into his discussion, and should not be faulted for it.
14 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Saturday 10/13/07 - 6:07:54 PM EST (GMT-5)
I dont think it was appropriate of him
14 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Saturday 10/13/07 - 6:13:37 PM EST (GMT-5)
No, assuming that we're getting the whole story here. Firing someone for pretending to shoot people with a marker is ridiculous.
14 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Saturday 10/13/07 - 7:34:07 PM EST (GMT-5)
No. He should have been disciplined.
14 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Monday 10/22/07 - 1:02:17 AM EST (GMT-5)
That's almost as ludicrous as the student who got expelled from his school for pointing a piece of chicken at a teacher and saying "Pow!"! What has the world come to?
14 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Tuesday 10/30/07 - 4:20:59 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 10/13/2007 6:13:37 PM burnteffigy wrote:
No, assuming that we're getting the whole story here. Firing someone for pretending to shoot people with a marker is ridiculous.

That. 'Assuming that we're getting the whole story here'!



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