Sweet...I'm the 1st vote and comment.
And yes, yes it is.

Um, what is he doing to Muslims? The last I checked we were fighting terrorist groups because we were attacked on 9/11 and we do not want it to happen again. Now I'm not Mr. Bush's biggest fan, but I have not jumped on the "Bush is Hitler" bandwagon, either.

Did you seriously just ask what he's doing to Muslims? Why not Google 'Guantanamo inmates still not charged' or 'Government sets up no-fly lists based on race' or 'government taps Muslim phones' or 'government detains Muslims in other countries to get around human rights laws'. Then come back and answer again.

No, why would it be hypocritical?

On 12/29/2006 6:24:43 PM KikiPeepers wrote: Did you seriously just ask what he's doing to Muslims? Why not Google 'Guantanamo inmates still not charged' or 'Government sets up no-fly lists based on race' or 'government taps Muslim phones' or 'government detains Muslims in other countries to get around human rights laws'.

He did: Guantanamo inmates still not charged- that is a detainment camp, not an internment camp, and it is holding people because they are suspected Al-Qaeda operatives, not because of there race of relition

Government sets up no-fly lists based on race- Total crap.

Government taps Muslim phones- government taps suspects phones, no Muslims phones, get it right.

government detains Muslims in other countries to get around human rights laws- Oh yeah, this is new No one EVER did that before Bush...

You can't hold people for 5 years - if they don't have evidence to charge any of the people at Guantanamo yet, they should give it up. How stupid are they that in 5 years they can't come up with enough to charge hardly any of the people there? And he does set up no-fly lists based on race, as well as 'suspicious patterns'...

http://www.youthink.com/default.asp?jump...

He also did this right after 9/11, which is exactly what I am talking about in this question too:

http://www.youthink.com/default.asp?jump...

It is classified, Kiki.

The first article, did you read it? It isn't based on race, it is based on travel patterns. What is wrong with that?

The second question is total crap.

No the second question was awesome because it shows a time when that happened! You never hear about that any more, even the news article from MSNBC I posted on it is gone even though their articles never archive.

I know the terrorist lists are based on travel patterns too - I'm a victim of it! We get the SSS every time we fly, they always frisk us and go through our bags with the bomb cloths. Finally once they noticed we knew the whole routine and I asked the guy why we were always pulled out. It's because we took a lot of international flights right after 9/11 and quite a few were at the last minute. So I'm on their stupid list because we travel a lot.

I'm all for racial profiling, but you have to have probably cause to tap someone's phones and put them on secret government lists, and I just don't believe they do. I think they have their heads up their asses and have no idea who they are even trying to prosecute or catch.

Probably cause = a new thing I made up apparently

On 12/29/2006 7:20:28 PM KikiPeepers wrote: I'm all for racial profiling, but you have to have probably cause to tap someone's phones and put them on secret government lists, and I just don't believe they do.

Well, that sounds like a personal problem, because they do. My uncle, for example, it an Iranian Immigrant that married my dads sister. He visited Iran only a few months before 9-11 and his last name is Afgani. They didn't bother him until he transferred a large sum of money into a different account for his job, and when they did, all they did was freeze the account, and call his Boss to make sure it was actually for work. He was never arrested, phones never tapped, and he has not been bother since. I realize that is a generalization, but you have to understand that, contrary to your anti-Bush bias, the work they are doing isn't based solely on Race, but on constance.

As a white, blond haired, all-American boy, in all-America clothing, with an all-America voice, I have been stopped for a search when getting on a plane, while "Brown people" with foreign accents have gone on a head without so much as a second glance. Racist profiling is not nearly as prevalent as you have been lead to believe.

I know, I *like* racial profiling I said. It's definitely not as prevalant as we are led to believe. Or at least some are led to believe, I know the truth. I'm a white, blonde-haired, All-American girl and I always get searched too. It's like that Bill Maher poster:

The internement camps stand as a reminder of something that we can never let happen again.

No The prisoners held in bush s camps will not be starved to death or killed for the sake of it there is no comparison

On 5/15/2007 5:45:05 AM Dragonfly333 wrote: No The prisoners held in bush s camps will not be starved to death or killed for the sake of it there is no comparison

Oh is that right? These 108 dead people might have something else to say about it...

Report: 108 Died In U.S. Custody

And I'm personally multiplying that number by about 10 in my head, to make up for the ones killed in secret CIA camps and Guantanamo. And let's not even get started on torture like starving...

How many people at Gitmo were civilians just living in the US before they were captured and sent to Cuba?

Everything that asswipe does is hypocritical.

Sounds like a good money saving strategy. Why build new interment camps when there are perfectly good ones out there that just need a little renovation?

On 5/15/2007 2:55:13 PM CowDung wrote: How many people at Gitmo were civilians just living in the US before they were captured and sent to Cuba?

Some were, like those British civilians that were there for years without being charged with anything. Now they have a movie out about what they went through.

On 5/15/2007 10:57:26 PM KikiPeepers wrote: Some were, like those British civilians that were there for years without being charged with anything. Now they have a movie out about what they went through.

How many? How did it come about that they were there?

Looks like three...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipton_Thre...

But when searching under 'british guantanamo detainees' I found articles of many more British and Australian people detained for years then released with no charges.

They aren't running a criminal prison--why should they have to charge prisoners of war?

Because that's the right thing to do?

...and it seems that the "Tipton Three" were captured in Afghanistan. Not exactly the same as British civilians being rousted out of bed and taken away to Gitmo.

On 5/15/2007 11:32:35 PM KikiPeepers wrote: Because that's the right thing to do?

Did the US charge the POWs they kept during any other wars?

On 5/15/2007 11:33:20 PM CowDung wrote: On 5/15/2007 11:32:35 PM KikiPeepers wrote: Because that's the right thing to do? Did the US charge the POWs they kept during any other wars?

I don't know. Did they torture them too?