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1,314 hits Rate me! Share Favorite | Flag 15 years ago by KikiPeepers

Can a country survive without securing its borders?


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15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 12/7/06 - 4:01:13 AM EST (GMT-5)
Australia has thousands and thousands of miles of unguarded coastline and we seem to be doing alright.
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 12/7/06 - 6:18:56 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 12/7/2006 4:01:13 AM OzArcher wrote:
Australia has thousands and thousands of miles of unguarded coastline and we seem to be doing alright.

Probably because it has a large amount of water between itself and its neighbouring countries.

15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 12/7/06 - 6:24:13 AM EST (GMT-5)
Not enough IMO.
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 12/7/06 - 6:31:06 AM EST (GMT-5)
Borders are a key aspect in defining a country. If borders cease to exist then a country as a definition would be thrown into serious doubt.
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 12/7/06 - 7:25:31 AM EST (GMT-5)
Well within the EU border controls have been reduced considerably over the last decade.

If you a citizen of a member state you can pretty much go live and work where you please.... which is why it's so amusing to hear politicians freaking out about immigration.

15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 12/7/06 - 8:34:52 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 12/7/2006 7:25:32 AM boredofu wrote:
Well within the EU border controls have been reduced considerably over the last decade. If you a citizen of a member state you can pretty much go live and work where you please.... which is why it's so amusing to hear politicians freaking out about immigration.

I would consider the EU at present an international entity rather than a country, as political federation has been lacking .

15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 12/7/06 - 1:47:27 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 12/7/2006 6:18:57 AM Avant-garde wrote:
On 12/7/2006 4:01:13 AM OzArcher wrote: Australia has thousands and thousands of miles of unguarded coastline and we seem to be doing alright. Probably because it has a large amount of water between itself and its neighbouring countries.

What there aren't people from New Zealand escaping for Australia on little rafts and inner tubes?

15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 12/7/06 - 1:54:28 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 12/7/2006 8:34:52 AM Avant-garde wrote:
On 12/7/2006 7:25:32 AM boredofu wrote: Well within the EU border controls have been reduced considerably over the last decade. If you a citizen of a member state you can pretty much go live and work where you please.... which is why it's so amusing to hear politicians freaking out about immigration. I would consider the EU at present an international entity rather than a country, as political federation has been lacking .

No Duh! Therefore there are a good few countries within the EU that don't have "secure" borders.

15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 12/7/06 - 2:12:28 PM EST (GMT-5)

On 12/7/2006 1:54:28 PM boredofu wrote:
On 12/7/2006 8:34:52 AM Avant-garde wrote: On 12/7/2006 7:25:32 AM boredofu wrote: Well within the EU border controls have been reduced considerably over the last decade. If you a citizen of a member state you can pretty much go live and work where you please.... which is why it's so amusing to hear politicians freaking out about immigration. I would consider the EU at present an international entity rather than a country, as political federation has been lacking . No Duh! Therefore there are a good few countries within the EU that don't have "secure" borders.

Just stating the obvious in case you may have missed it. So although the borders are not 'secure' they nevertheless exist then?

15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 12/7/06 - 2:19:46 PM EST (GMT-5)
The US doesn't secure it's borders...

People can move freely in and out from both Mexico () and Canada.

15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 12/7/06 - 2:57:48 PM EST (GMT-5)
Depends on the country. Some countries don't really have the need to secure their borders.
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 12/7/06 - 4:40:47 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 12/7/2006 2:12:28 PM Avant-garde wrote:
On 12/7/2006 1:54:28 PM boredofu wrote: On 12/7/2006 8:34:52 AM Avant-garde wrote: Just stating the obvious in case you may have missed it. So although the borders are not 'secure' they nevertheless exist then?


As illustrated in my first few words.... Well within the EU border controls have been reduced considerably ... obviously if border controls have been reduced and not abolished then the borders still exist.

Is there anything else you want to quote and try to make a non issue out of?

15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 12/7/06 - 8:40:20 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 12/7/2006 6:18:57 AM Avant-garde wrote:
On 12/7/2006 4:01:13 AM OzArcher wrote: Australia has thousands and thousands of miles of unguarded coastline and we seem to be doing alright. Probably because it has a large amount of water between itself and its neighbouring countries.

Yes. This and the fact that most people can't be fagged travelling the distance to get here. This is why it's Paradise.

15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 12/7/06 - 8:41:41 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 12/7/2006 1:47:27 PM KikiPeepers wrote:
On 12/7/2006 6:18:57 AM Avant-garde wrote: On 12/7/2006 4:01:13 AM OzArcher wrote: Australia has thousands and thousands of miles of unguarded coastline and we seem to be doing alright. Probably because it has a large amount of water between itself and its neighbouring countries. What there aren't people from New Zealand escaping for Australia on little rafts and inner tubes?

yes, but we claim them for our own and Australian-ize them without delay.

15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Saturday 12/9/06 - 7:05:43 PM EST (GMT-5)
No, otherwise it will be overrun!
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Sunday 12/10/06 - 11:37:26 PM EST (GMT-5)
Not really.
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 12/27/06 - 9:56:34 AM EST (GMT-5)
15 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Thursday 12/28/06 - 9:18:42 AM EST (GMT-5)
Yeah, but the country can't be very appealing.
15 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 2/6/07 - 8:21:23 PM EST (GMT-5)
There's a lot of debate going on in Canada right now about sending troops to secure the northern border, mainly to prevent American vessels from coming and going as they please. Personally I think it's a waste of money though. In Canada I think it's more of a matter of pride to secure the northern border rather than necessity.
15 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Sunday 3/18/07 - 5:48:41 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 12/7/2006 4:01:13 AM OzArcher wrote:
Australia has thousands and thousands of miles of unguarded coastline and we seem to be doing alright.

But we still have to secure our borders from boat people with patrol ships remember.

15 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Sunday 3/18/07 - 5:50:05 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 12/7/2006 7:25:32 AM boredofu wrote:
Well within the EU border controls have been reduced considerably over the last decade. If you a citizen of a member state you can pretty much go live and work where you please.... which is why it's so amusing to hear politicians freaking out about immigration.

Yeah but there are certain common rules and regulations within the EU which means it isn't such a big deal if people move about within it.

15 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Sunday 3/18/07 - 9:48:34 AM EST (GMT-5)
Ask the American Indians what happens when you don't secure your borders.
15 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 4/12/07 - 7:35:07 AM EST (GMT-5)
I think it could but still immigrants would be able to come in and out whenever they please.
15 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Monday 4/16/07 - 11:54:12 PM EST (GMT-5)
No.
15 yrs ago - Sunday 9/9/07 - 1:48:34 PM EST (GMT-5)
Depends on the country.

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