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WIkid
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16 yrs ago - Thursday 5/4/06 - 3:19:16 PM EST (GMT-5)
I believe this because I know that if you are placed in a class with extremely bright kids, you work harder. If there are high expectations on you, you are more likely to do better. If someone is thought of as bright in my class, and they get work they don't understand a word of, they will try to because people think they can do it. Everyone else doesn't look at it too seriously because they aren't expected by other people to know the answers. They've actually admitted that if more people tried it they would feel more pressure to work at it and would try.
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Avant-garde
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16 yrs ago - Thursday 5/4/06 - 3:22:36 PM EST (GMT-5)
This looks quite interesting, is there a link in which to look at the study conducted by Rosenthal and Jacobson. Since this seems to be a quantitative project is there any data on research techniques and sampling methods?
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16 yrs ago - Thursday 5/4/06 - 4:40:36 PM EST (GMT-5)
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mezzy-spoon
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16 yrs ago - Saturday 5/6/06 - 1:29:34 PM EST (GMT-5)
NO!!!! It does the exact OPPOSITE!!!!!!!!!! It makes them stressed out, and then they start screwing around.
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16 yrs ago - Saturday 5/6/06 - 1:39:44 PM EST (GMT-5)
It makes sense that it would work.
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16 yrs ago - Saturday 5/6/06 - 1:53:26 PM EST (GMT-5)
looks like it, that would then explain why I do so much better in some classes and in others I suck...
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DeeDee17
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16 yrs ago - Saturday 5/6/06 - 2:26:15 PM EST (GMT-5)
Yes, I just studied this in one of my child development courses.
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xdonutx
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15 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 6/12/06 - 4:46:16 PM EST (GMT-5)
Of course it does. I get pretty decent/good grades in school because my parents expect it from me. If they didn't, i know for a fact that I would only have C's on average. Also, Last semester I took a CP Biology class, and my teacher expected alot from us, so I studied and made sure everything was neat. This semester my CP Bio teacher doesn't put that much of an emphasis on learning class material. The class is alot more lenient, and so I don't study for tests or write neatly because I don't have to.
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troglodyte22
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15 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 6/12/06 - 4:51:56 PM EST (GMT-5)
It works for me. When I'm expected to do the bare minimum, I do the bare minimum, or less. When I'm expected to do my best, I usually try very hard.
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skye1
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15 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Wednesday 9/13/06 - 9:33:51 PM EST (GMT-5)
the effect is a very real one. and over and over again, studies have proven it true.
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15 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Thursday 11/16/06 - 9:13:08 PM EST (GMT-5)
I would think it works.
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Sethg10
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15 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Saturday 12/23/06 - 7:01:34 PM EST (GMT-5)
The reverse is true, so therefore the pygmalion is true also. If you expect nothing from a person and tell them they can't do it, then they will usually do badly. If you tell them they can do better, and expect them to, then they do. Our most limiting trait our minds telling us we can't do something.
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masokisst
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15 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Thursday 1/4/07 - 11:13:20 PM EST (GMT-5)
Depends on the individual student, how much they have a need to fulfill expectations.
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jvcc
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15 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Monday 3/12/07 - 3:34:47 PM EST (GMT-5)
Absolutely, and successful studies have been performed about this theory.
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15 yrs ago - Sunday 4/29/07 - 9:29:25 AM EST (GMT-5)
as above--i have to try hard not to be affected myself as a teacher
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15 yrs ago - Monday 4/30/07 - 6:26:33 PM EST (GMT-5)
I believe so. I actually read an interesting article where an experimenter took a group of Asian females who had roughly the same math abilities, and split them into three groups. With one group, the experimenter gave them a questionnaire that stressed their Asian identity. For another group, he gave them a questionnaire that stressed their female identity. The last group just received a random questionnaire that had nothing to do with identity, period. As you might expect, the girls who had their Asian identity stressed did the best, and the group whose female identity was stressed did the worst. The third group fell in between, as I recall.
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mattew
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14 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Sunday 5/27/07 - 10:14:30 AM EST (GMT-5)
I would make me very stressed out, more than I am. Lol I would rather get a 92% than a 99% because I was so close to that 100%! You see I am already stressed. but interesting.
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woot45
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14 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Monday 9/24/07 - 3:38:59 PM EST (GMT-5)
Well, if you tell someone you want them to get a higher grade, or everyone else is, they're going to want to do it and they'll work harder.
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MetalWrath
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14 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Sunday 10/21/07 - 10:58:55 PM EST (GMT-5)
UGH! I hate when my teachers expect me to do so much better than everybody else! It stresses me out so much! Besides, they don't expect me to do what I can do, but to do better than I am actually capable of.
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praetorfenix
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14 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Sunday 10/21/07 - 11:58:04 PM EST (GMT-5)
Yes, expectation always play a mayor part upon the final result of everything, that's why we must always have really high expectations.
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