Depends what you mean by frightened. I don't get scared of Islamo-Fascists every time I walk out my door.

And I don't think Islamo-Fascists are as likely to target Tasmania as they are to target most other parts of the west.

But I do worry about them as a long term problem for the West and world stability.

im frightened by any militant fundamentalist group, islamic, christian, or otherwise

Islam and fascism itself scares the hell out of me, the combination is just unbelievably horrible.

On 5/19/2006 7:34:03 PM Aburame wrote: Islam and fascism itself scares the hell out of me, the combination is just unbelievably horrible.

Islam by itself isn't anything to be scared about. Moderate Muslims can be quite nice people.

Islam is plenty scary by itself, it's called terrorism and jihad, it's when governments get in the mix that you have the fascism aspect. Muslim moderates are rare and irrelevant when the majority of Islam is waging war on the world.

On 5/20/2006 6:41:56 AM Aburame wrote: Islam is plenty scary by itself, it's called terrorism and jihad, it's when governments get in the mix that you have the fascism aspect. Muslim moderates are rare and irrelevant when the majority of Islam is waging war on the world.

You have no idea what you're talking about but I'll forgive you for being young and naive.

Islam ITSELF doesn't have anything to do with terrorism and a war against the West. And holy "Jihad" is often interpreted as an inner war with oneself.

If Islam were directly related to terrorism they would have banned it in the West by now.

If the majority of Islam were waging a war on the world we'd have World War III on our hands by now.

There are 1.3 billion Muslims in this world. If they were all fighting us there would be a hell of a lot more terrorism than what we're witnessing now.

Let me assure you the majority of the 1.3 billion Muslims in this world are not terrorists.

It wouldn't be too bad if they all waged war on us. They'd eventually all blow themselves up
But no, it's not really scary to me personally..

Nope cause we don't have that problem here.

On 10/10/2006 4:00:12 AM angeleyesgr wrote: Nope cause we don't have that problem here.

It could 'cause problems virtually anywhere. Although some places are more likely than others of course.

I laugh at people who are.

On 5/20/2006 6:41:56 AM Aburame wrote: Islam is plenty scary by itself, it's called terrorism and jihad, it's when governments get in the mix that you have the fascism aspect. Muslim moderates are rare and irrelevant when the majority of Islam is waging war on the world.

Your logic makes little sense. By your resoning I could say Americans are all racist terrorists because of the KKK, Christians are terrorists because of the violience in North Ireland and Serbia, Buddhists are a danger to the public because of terrorist grouops in Japan, Italians and Russians are all criminals becuase of the Iatalian and Russian mafia...
You seem to mistake the minority to be the majority in Islam, and there is no way in hell 1 billion people are all strapping bombs o themselves or to buses because I think we might have noticed it by now.

In response to the original question, yes I do fear radical and miliatnt Islam is a serious threat to the world.

I tend to be frightened by most things that end in -facism.

I'm more afraid of those who lable things "-fascism".

People who do so are encouraging mindless hate.

On 11/10/2006 12:32:21 AM wanderer wrote: I'm more afraid of those who lable things "-fascism". People who do so are encouraging mindless hate.

So if I label Benito Mussolini a fascist then I'm encouraging mindless hate?

How so?

Fascism is simply a word. And some things fit within the definition of that word.

The term islamo-fascism is totally unhelpful to the situation. It implies that Islam and fascism are inherently linked which is ridiculous when you consider that it was created in 1920s Europe. Whilst Islamic fundamentalism is a great threat, I consider the islamophobia displayed in this very question a far greater threat to the values of tolerence and equality that western democracy is supposedly founded upon.

On 11/13/2006 8:08:32 AM BenS wrote: The term islamo-fascism is totally unhelpful to the situation.

Should we make up a new word for Islamo-fascism? Seems silly.

On 11/13/2006 8:08:32 AM BenS wrote: It implies that Islam and fascism are inherently linked which is ridiculous when you consider that it was created in 1920s Europe.

I don't believe it implies that at all.

On 11/13/2006 8:08:32 AM BenS wrote: I consider the islamophobia displayed in this very question a far greater threat to the values of tolerence and equality that western democracy is supposedly founded upon.

I think you're going WAY overboard there.

I can understand critisising anything related to Islam is a touchy subject these days. But seriously. The question itself isn't talking about Islam as a whole. Are we supposed to not talk about any negative aspects of Islam lest we insult people? I find that as more of a "threat to tolerence and equality that we

No, I live in an extremely remote area on a mountain, if I was scared by all this terrorism madness I wouldn't need to worry that much.

"Should we make up a new word for Islamo-fascism? Seems silly."

I'd like to point out "islamofascism" isn't an academic term and has only come into common use since right-wingers tried to make the connection between the threat of Islam (when the threat is actually religious fundamentalism, whether that be islamic or not) and the threat of fascism in the 20s, 30s and 40s. The term therefore misleads people about Islam and creates negative stereotypes and prejudice.

"I think you're going WAY overboard there.

I can understand critisising anything related to Islam is a touchy subject these days. But seriously. The question itself isn't talking about Islam as a whole. Are we supposed to not talk about any negative aspects of Islam lest we insult people? I find that as more of a "threat to tolerence and equality that we"

There are negative sides to Islam, but that is the same for every religion. Creating terms like islamo-fascism isn't a sensible word to be using when you are trying to rationally criticise extremists. It isn't accurate, it misleads people and it makes it seem that Islam is the problem when it is only a tiny minority that commit terrorist acts, which leads people to stereotype muslims and even arabs in general as terrorists.

On 11/21/2006 1:31:39 PM BenS wrote: I'd like to point out "islamofascism" isn't an academic term and has only come into common use since right-wingers tried to make the connection between the threat of Islam (when the threat is actually religious fundamentalism, whether that be islamic or not) and the threat of fascism in the 20s, 30s and 40s. The term therefore misleads people about Islam and creates negative stereotypes and prejudice.

Would you be happier with the term Islamic fascism?

The word fascism today is used in a much more generic sense than just the particular political movement which formed between the 1920's and 40's. I doubt any modern dictionary would stick only to your definition.

" 1. often Fascism
1. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
2. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control.
"
From the American Heritage Dictionary. I think this definition would be widely recognised.

And it seems there are such governments in a few Islamic states at present. Would seem reasonable to discuss such things.

"Would you be happier with the term Islamic fascism?"

No, why do you have an obsession with using the words together? My point wasn't that the word fascism isn't relevent in the 21st century, my point is there are things far closer to religious fundamentalism than fascism (the best examples of fascism being those from the 20s, 30s and 40s and it not being as similar as you make out). The only reason phrases like islamofascism are used is to make out "Islam is the new fascism", that is the implication of the phrase and leads to negative stereotyping of both muslims and arabs in general.

On 11/24/2006 7:44:02 AM Tasdavil wrote: " 1. often Fascism 1. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism. 2. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government. 2. Oppressive, dictatorial control. " From the American Heritage Dictionary. I think this definition would be widely recognised. And it seems there are such governments in a few Islamic states at present. Would seem reasonable to discuss such things.

Ok, so Islamic extremists and some islamic states can be described as fascists. Many things could be described as fascist by this definition, the Christian Right in the US just as much as Islamic fundamentalists, yet I don't hear the phrase Christo-fascism...

Do you know why the phrase isn't used? Because the implication is we have to fight fascism (because of the horrors of Hitler and Mussolini) and it isn't christians people who use the phrase islamofascism want to fight, it is muslims.