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4,180 hits Rate me! Share Favorite | Flag 15 years ago by SpaceCadet

Should it be socially acceptable to ridicule fat people about their weight as smokers are ridiculed for smoking?


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15 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 11/17/05 - 4:46:15 AM EST (GMT-5)
it's not socially acceptable to ridicule smokers for smoking. people do it but it's not socially acceptable. anyways i dont think people who are gonna insult smokers or fat people really care if it's socially acceptable
15 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 11/17/05 - 4:49:32 AM EST (GMT-5)
Yes. Both are the result of either a choice or lack of will.
15 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 11/17/05 - 5:43:13 AM EST (GMT-5)
Since when has it been socially acceptable to ridicule smokers? As well, why should it be considered a right of passage to do so to either smokers or fat people? It takes all kinds to make a world. Imagine the field day if we were to declare it socially acceptable to ridicule narrow minded, opinionated people?
15 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 11/17/05 - 5:51:58 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 11/17/2005 5:43:14 AM OzArcher wrote:
Since when has it been socially acceptable to ridicule smokers? As well, why should it be considered a right of passage to do so to either smokers or fat people? It takes all kinds to make a world. Imagine the field day if we were to declare it socially acceptable to ridicule narrow minded, opinionated people?

Like we don't every time they try to take us on.

15 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 11/17/05 - 5:54:47 AM EST (GMT-5)
You don't need to ridicule narrow minded people. All you need to do is argue properly and they're stuffed.
15 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 11/17/05 - 5:54:48 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 11/17/2005 4:49:32 AM icy wrote:
Yes. Both are the result of either a choice or lack of will.

And you, being a paragon of will and self actualization, are in a position to judge?
How about widespread social acceptance for ridiculing the shallow and self-righteous? I bet you wouldn't support that one, huh?
15 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 11/17/05 - 6:11:26 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 11/17/2005 5:54:48 AM OzArcher wrote:
You don't need to ridicule narrow minded people. All you need to do is argue properly and they're stuffed.

That's what I was insinuating.

15 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 11/17/05 - 6:29:57 AM EST (GMT-5)
It's been socially acceptable to ridicule smokers for years. Ever heard of 'those things'll kill you!'. Even seen someone point to a fat man's belly or a hamburger and say 'that thing'll kill you!'?
15 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 11/17/05 - 6:38:35 AM EST (GMT-5)
Socially accept this fatass!
15 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 11/17/05 - 9:07:15 AM EST (GMT-5)
I don't consider it personally acceptable to ridicule people about either, but I do think that if it is socially accpetable to ridicule one (and it IS socailly acceptable to ridicule smokers) that it should be for both. They amount to the same thing.

Although, the problem is that people have MANY more emotional issues connected with being obese than with smoking.

15 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 11/17/05 - 9:08:38 AM EST (GMT-5)
What about Fat smokers?
15 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 11/17/05 - 9:24:58 AM EST (GMT-5)
We should just shout obscenities at them and spray them down with fire hoses until they have heart attacks, of course.
15 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 11/17/05 - 9:25:12 AM EST (GMT-5)
Hell yeah! Who wants to kiss an ashtray full of lard anyway????
15 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 12/8/05 - 11:58:26 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 11/17/2005 5:54:48 AM OzArcher wrote:
You don't need to ridicule narrow minded people. All you need to do is argue properly and they're stuffed.

Clearly, you've never argued with a narrow-minded person...

15 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Thursday 1/12/06 - 4:53:54 AM EST (GMT-5)
People should respect smokers as much as they should respect fat people. Everyone deserves a fair level of respect.
15 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Sunday 1/15/06 - 7:52:33 PM EST (GMT-5)
It may not be "acceptable" to do either, but it's more common for a smoker to get grief/opposition for lighting up, for example, "did you know that causes cancer?" is pretty common opposed to when an obese person starts to eat fried chickn in public, I doubt warnings about high blood pressure or other medical risks are brought up as often.

I think this is a really good question because it relates two things that usually aren't related like that. cool.

15 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Sunday 1/15/06 - 7:56:21 PM EST (GMT-5)
I've never seen smokers "ridiculed." People may speak badly of them, but that's not the same as ridiculing them.

Fat people, however, are made fun of left and right. If people want to make fun of a group, they're within their rights to do so. I don't think it's necessarily good, though.

15 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Sunday 1/15/06 - 7:57:14 PM EST (GMT-5)
People who smoke, put others at risk of lung cancer through second hand smoke when they smoke, fat people are owning destroying themselves. If they want to eat themselves into an early grave, by all means, go for it, but smokers aren't just hurting themselves.
15 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Sunday 1/15/06 - 7:58:23 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 1/12/2006 4:53:54 AM halifax_girl wrote:
People should respect smokers as much as they should respect fat people. Everyone deserves a fair level of respect.

Why do people "deserve" respect? What does respect mean if it's not earned?

Being fat doesn't effect surrounding people as much as smoking. Fat, however bad it is, doesn't enter the atmosphere and cause second-hand fatness.

The severely obese will end up costing others a lot of tax money for health care, but so do smokers, and they damage others' health. Sorry if I'm being repetitive.

15 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Sunday 1/15/06 - 7:59:29 PM EST (GMT-5)
affect** sorry.

And I'm kind of off topic, about specifically ridiculing. Just being general.

15 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Sunday 1/15/06 - 7:59:29 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 1/15/2006 7:58:24 PM symphonic wrote:
Why do people "deserve" respect? What does respect mean if it's not earned?

SHOWING someone respect and ACTUALLY respecting them are different. Everyone deserves to be shown respect.
15 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Sunday 1/15/06 - 8:01:11 PM EST (GMT-5)
Ah. There's either respect or there's not. Showing respect when you don't mean it is the same as being polite.
15 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Sunday 1/15/06 - 8:03:38 PM EST (GMT-5)
Yes, that's exactly what it is. It's polite. Don't make yourself out to be a lowlife by not showing respect to someone (i.e being polite)

No one is telling you to be best friends with everyone, or to respect that person, because some people don't deserve to be respected, but it's POLITE to show them respect.

15 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Sunday 1/15/06 - 8:05:02 PM EST (GMT-5)
No. I can accept people making fun of smokers because a smoker is also harming the non smokers.

It's not the case with obese people.

15 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Sunday 1/15/06 - 8:05:24 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 1/15/2006 7:59:29 PM Brockgurl86 wrote:
Everyone deserves to be shown respect.

I don't think that's always true in every way.

I think people should be allowed to speak their mind, even if what they have to say may be perceived as disrespectful for being racist, sizist, homophobic, etc.


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