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melina23
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17 yrs ago - Saturday 5/14/05 - 10:32:16 AM EST (GMT-5)
I haven't heard of the Donald Herbert case until now. But I think that the choice made by Terri Schiavo's husband wasn't the wrong one.
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17 yrs ago - Saturday 5/14/05 - 5:24:00 PM EST (GMT-5)
I don't know. It is ethical diliemma.
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burnteffigy
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17 yrs ago - Saturday 5/14/05 - 5:27:36 PM EST (GMT-5)
Uhm, no not at all. They are completely different situations. Herbert was not in a persistent vegetative state, Schiavo was. Only Schiavo's brain stem was still functioning, much more of Herbert's brain was functioning.
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17 yrs ago - Saturday 5/14/05 - 7:32:53 PM EST (GMT-5)
Ethical dilemma? What? Not at all. Different situations, like burnt said.
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luckystar07
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17 yrs ago - Sunday 5/15/05 - 1:14:18 AM EST (GMT-5)
I feel completely the same about Terri's case as I did previously. The government shouldn't have been involved; Terri shouldn't have been taken off life support; and it's a blessing that Donald Herbert is well again. Honestly, I know that's a very pro-life stance, but this is a "what do you believe" question. So that's what I believe(d) - before and after hearing about Mr. Herbert's case.
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daydreaming
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17 yrs ago - Sunday 5/22/05 - 1:03:05 AM EST (GMT-5)
Only a mystery because it can't be explained scientifically 
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17 yrs ago - Sunday 5/22/05 - 1:04:24 AM EST (GMT-5)
From the article: Dr. Rose Lynn Sherr of New York University Medical Center said when patients recover from brain injuries, they usually do so within two or three years. "It's almost unheard of after 10 years," she said, "but sometimes things do happen and people suddenly improve and we don't understand why.'"" I don't think it was the same damage with mrs Schavio. THe way they are talking, there was always a possibility he could come back. She never had that possibility.
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16 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 6/1/05 - 10:45:23 AM EST (GMT-5)
No, they're completely different.
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otherpolly
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16 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Friday 7/22/05 - 6:17:40 PM EST (GMT-5)
I always thought the husband was doing the righ thing in regard to Terry Schiavo, and after learning the results of the autopsy I am even more convinced. The firefighter was in a coma, while Terry was in a vegetative state. Terry never had the chance of recovery, no matter how much her family wished for it.
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jgp
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16 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Wednesday 7/27/05 - 6:06:26 PM EST (GMT-5)
No, because their situations are incomparable. Their brains were affected differently, so I never would have connected the two scenarios as even bearing some resemblance to each other. BTW - what a miraculous event for Donald Herbert! It truly is a pity that Terri Schiavo would never have been able to meet the same fate.
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16 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 7/28/05 - 12:43:05 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 5/14/2005 5:27:36 PM burnteffigy wrote: Uhm, no not at all. They are completely different situations. Herbert was not in a persistent vegetative state, Schiavo was. Only Schiavo's brain stem was still functioning, much more of Herbert's brain was functioning. | Couldn't of said it better.
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dontdoubtND
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16 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 8/11/05 - 1:07:08 AM EST (GMT-5)
i'm sorry but bush's brother wanted to take care of her and everything..i think they should have let her go with him...its not like her husband was going to have to pay anything...i don't like how they didn't feed her for days and days thats really sad...but whatever shes gone now
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hillbillyman
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16 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 8/11/05 - 1:12:43 AM EST (GMT-5)
I feel the same now as I did then regarding terry shiavo. I don't believe that the whole situation was handled correctly. If terry's parents wanted to be the ones responsible for their daughter, then that should have been allowed. Because, believe me, were it my daughter in that situation, I would fight tooth and nail to prevent the same thing from happening to her
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Tasdavil
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16 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Tuesday 8/16/05 - 10:03:45 AM EST (GMT-5)
Two totally different cases. Different level of damage to the brain. Anyone thinking comparing two totally different cases is going to change an intelligent person's mind never understood the case in the first place. Donald Herbert had a faint hope. Terri Schiavo had no hope seeing as the most important parts of her brain were actually physically gone.
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16 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Tuesday 8/16/05 - 10:04:52 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 5/14/2005 5:27:36 PM burnteffigy wrote: Uhm, no not at all. They are completely different situations. Herbert was not in a persistent vegetative state, Schiavo was. Only Schiavo's brain stem was still functioning, much more of Herbert's brain was functioning. | I agree with this.
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16 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Tuesday 8/16/05 - 10:06:50 AM EST (GMT-5)
yeah me too, I had it all copied and ready to paste
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burnteffigy
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16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 10/13/05 - 4:50:02 PM EST (GMT-5)
That's awful...I think I would rather die than sit there, fully conscious, not being able to move or communicate or anything.
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holy1
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16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 10/13/05 - 4:58:03 PM EST (GMT-5)
Wasn't the whole point that she (Terri) had said to her husband if she where ever in that sort of a state she would want to die? I know if I was her i'd i've rather died - no quality of life - people only able to see you the way you've become rather than the way you where.. I don't blame her parents for what they tried to do but their actions where still selfish actions - albeit very understandable ones.
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Yumiii
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16 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 12/10/05 - 4:39:45 AM EST (GMT-5)
Who and who?
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16 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 12/10/05 - 4:48:50 AM EST (GMT-5)
No, Terri Schiavo was a full vegetable. There was no hope.
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gonadsonfire
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16 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 12/27/05 - 10:50:10 PM EST (GMT-5)
killing ppl in a vegative state isnt wrong, it is doing what was supposed to happen in the first place
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13 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Tuesday 2/17/09 - 4:13:50 PM EST (GMT-5)
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13 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Tuesday 2/17/09 - 4:22:32 PM EST (GMT-5)
It's been said above, this is a completely different situation. Even if it wasn't, who cares? She's dead; let it go.
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12 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Sunday 11/22/09 - 11:16:53 PM EST (GMT-5)
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12 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Sunday 11/22/09 - 11:49:11 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Sunday 11/22/09 - 11:16:53 PM KikiPeepers wrote: See what time can uncover? |
Old threads that people stopped posting on because they ran their course?
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