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17 yrs ago - Wednesday 5/11/05 - 12:34:31 PM EST (GMT-5)
It's pro-life day I think they have every right to wear them
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17 yrs ago - Wednesday 5/11/05 - 12:36:40 PM EST (GMT-5)
Hey, if they can force kids to stop wearing t-shirts with the word f**k on them, then these losers can get a taste of oppression too.
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17 yrs ago - Wednesday 5/11/05 - 12:36:55 PM EST (GMT-5)
When you're a minor, your Constitutional Rights take a backseat to parents' and schools' rules.
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17 yrs ago - Wednesday 5/11/05 - 12:38:00 PM EST (GMT-5)
I wonder if there is a pro-choice day?
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17 yrs ago - Wednesday 5/11/05 - 2:30:48 PM EST (GMT-5)
Every day is pro-choice day in America, unfortunately
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wheeloftime
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17 yrs ago - Friday 5/13/05 - 11:01:44 AM EST (GMT-5)
They have a right to express there opinion, but wearing that shirt to school isnt really appropriate.
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17 yrs ago - Friday 5/13/05 - 11:58:39 AM EST (GMT-5)
The old "disruption of school" dodge. That is used when there is really no good reason for the school's actions. It is also perfectly legal, so yes, they should have been made to change their shirts, even though they represent a good idea.
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17 yrs ago - Friday 5/13/05 - 12:01:09 PM EST (GMT-5)
Who is the judge of whether there is a good reason to do it or not, brett_weir, I ask rhetorically? The school, not you. It's not a dodge; it's their professional opinion and it's their call. Even the potential for disruption is a valid enough reason. There may be some abuses of this power, sure, but that's the exception, not the rule.
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17 yrs ago - Friday 5/13/05 - 12:04:56 PM EST (GMT-5)
Rhetorically I answer: This is almost exclusively the only reason ever given for any form of expression being banned in the school systems. It is used for a lack of any legitimate reason, and often the school's actions in banning things creates more distraction than the banned thing would have.
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17 yrs ago - Friday 5/13/05 - 12:08:03 PM EST (GMT-5)
It *IS* a legitimate reason, though. It works because it is legitimate, and why not stick with an explanation that works and is legitimate?
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17 yrs ago - Friday 5/13/05 - 12:10:19 PM EST (GMT-5)
I just have a real bitch with the mindset of academia. You are correct, but I say f*ck the lame ass old bitches who run the schools.
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17 yrs ago - Friday 5/13/05 - 12:11:32 PM EST (GMT-5)
The picture of these two reminds me of an old George Carliln line. "Have you ever noticed the women who are anti-abortion are the ones nobody wants to f*ck anyway?"
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17 yrs ago - Friday 5/13/05 - 12:11:51 PM EST (GMT-5)
*Carlin*
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17 yrs ago - Friday 5/13/05 - 12:26:15 PM EST (GMT-5)
no dont think so
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16 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Thursday 5/26/05 - 4:25:16 PM EST (GMT-5)
You'd think that the school as worse things to deal with...it's in Des Moines for god's sake!
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16 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Thursday 5/26/05 - 4:38:48 PM EST (GMT-5)
Wow. That's just stupid. They have every right to wear the shirts, so let them!
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16 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Thursday 5/26/05 - 4:43:49 PM EST (GMT-5)
it depends. If they'd protest against pro choice t-shirts, then yes. If not, then no
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16 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Thursday 5/26/05 - 4:47:25 PM EST (GMT-5)
National Pro-Life T-Shirt Day? 
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16 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Thursday 5/26/05 - 4:48:39 PM EST (GMT-5)
holy crap, the one on the left looks like john goodman!
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16 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Thursday 5/26/05 - 5:22:28 PM EST (GMT-5)
What attractive, mature looking models. Why specifically a day for T-shirts? Isn't that awfully limiting? And let the kids wear what they want. It doesn't have any nasty looking abortion images or anything, why bother them?
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16 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Thursday 5/26/05 - 6:21:57 PM EST (GMT-5)
No... While I don't agree with their opinion, I think they have a right to voice it.
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16 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Thursday 5/26/05 - 6:22:53 PM EST (GMT-5)
I just realized: Isn't anti-abortion the same thing as pro-life?
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16 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Thursday 5/26/05 - 7:37:29 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 5/26/2005 6:22:53 PM jules991 wrote: I just realized: Isn't anti-abortion the same thing as pro-life? | except more accurate. by making abortion illegal, you put mothers who suffer a tubal pregnancy in danger. this not only DOESN'T save the fetus, it also condemns the mother to a slow and painful death. and they have the nerve to call themselves "pro-life".
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16 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Saturday 6/4/05 - 12:58:14 AM EST (GMT-5)
I'm pro-choice but I'm extremely pro-freedom of speech and I don't think they should've been forced to remove their shirts. Everyone deserves to make a statement.
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16 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Saturday 6/4/05 - 4:52:59 PM EST (GMT-5)
I don't think they should have been made to remove the shirts, although they should have been told that the statement on their t-shirts isn't true. They definitely shouldn't have been threatened with suspension, that's ridiculous.
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