“The fish-in-a-vase fad is making fashion victims of bettas,” says PETA Special Assistant Laura Brown. “Fish aren’t centerpieces—they are living, feeling beings with physical and psychological needs.”

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Do you agree with this PETA campaign that Betta fish have `psychological needs`?
“The fish-in-a-vase fad is making fashion victims of bettas,” says PETA Special Assistant Laura Brown. “Fish aren’t centerpieces—they are living, feeling beings with physical and psychological needs.”

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16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Monday 2/21/05 - 11:14:17 PM EST (GMT-5)
I guess my betta is a "fashion victim" but I think he likes it, well at least I do.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Monday 2/21/05 - 11:19:21 PM EST (GMT-5)
Um, what can you do with a fish other than feed it, keep its enviroment clean and interesting, and look at it?
Honestly folks, get a grip.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Monday 2/21/05 - 11:22:47 PM EST (GMT-5)
Hahaha, fish have a short term memory of about 10 seconds.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Monday 2/21/05 - 11:33:51 PM EST (GMT-5)
They have a psychological need to get in MAH Belly.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Monday 2/21/05 - 11:36:40 PM EST (GMT-5)
They don't need a lot of oxygen or space, I have a fairly large vase for mine and I wouldn't say he's a fad. I've had him for ages.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 2/22/05 - 12:02:46 AM EST (GMT-5)
They definitely need more room than a vase. Yes, they naturally live in shallow waters, but they are much happier and healthier in a tank rather than a vase.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 2/22/05 - 8:06:22 AM EST (GMT-5)
All animals need sufficient freedom or they'll go nuts.
With fish it's just hard to see when they got nuts
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 2/22/05 - 12:47:31 PM EST (GMT-5)
We can't guarantee that fish do have short memories, so it would be best not to keep them in a vase. At least keep them in a tank.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 2/22/05 - 12:57:35 PM EST (GMT-5)
I don't understand how it's possible if they have such a short memory.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 2/22/05 - 12:59:03 PM EST (GMT-5)
Dayum, I need to mark this day on the calendar! I actually agree with PETA! Can't believe it. Usually I think PETA = People Espousing The Asinine, but in this case I think they're right. It's the height of human narcissism to use animals as decorative accessories, and I don't believe it should be done.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 2/22/05 - 12:59:54 PM EST (GMT-5)
No.
I do think that fish should be in tanks and not vases, though.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 2/22/05 - 1:03:36 PM EST (GMT-5)
I can't agree with PETA about anything.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 2/22/05 - 1:06:06 PM EST (GMT-5)
"With fish it's just hard to see when they got nuts"
lol

Fish don't get happy or unhappy. Fish are vaguely more mentally developed than roosterroaches. Animals do not have emotions. I don't beleive one should torture or kill anything just because they can. But I think you'd have to really stretch to show that fish that are being feed regularly and kept in tempurature controlled environments free of predators are being tortured.

16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 2/22/05 - 1:45:39 PM EST (GMT-5)
Yes, to an extent. But a lot of animals go through that. Look at when the T.V. show "Frasier" was on. Jack Russel sales went through the roof. People wanted them because they wanted their very own "Eddie." When they could not live up to it, off to the pound with them. That breed is still one on the most popular breed in AS across the county. At least 10 other animals come to mind about it.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 2/22/05 - 3:20:49 PM EST (GMT-5)
no, as long as you feed them and keep their bowl/vase/tank relativly clean, i do not have a problem with it. tanks can be expensive to maintain anyway.

people who campain about stuff like this have WAY too much time on their hands.

16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 2/22/05 - 3:21:16 PM EST (GMT-5)
haha! i think they do, though, because i had one and it comitted suicide. seriously, it jumped out of its bowl in the middle of the night. i think it felt rejected
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 2/22/05 - 3:22:16 PM EST (GMT-5)
Not as long as you take care of it. PETA seems to employ mostly nut cases. I'm an animal lover, but REALLY!
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 2/22/05 - 3:31:07 PM EST (GMT-5)
Beautiful animals, whether exotic colored fish or downright sexy human wives, all have that aesthetic quality. And this is no different than lusting over somebody, it's placing emphasis on material (carnal) visual pleasure. Living organisms are very often pleasing to the eye. Something or somebody isn't reduced to item status just cuz they look good; it's not demeaning. It's a beneficial side effect of being a physical entity.
If the fish needs a bigger cage by all means it's our job to provide that, but I don't care to hear the 'centerpiece' issue.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 2/22/05 - 3:36:55 PM EST (GMT-5)
Some fish can be trained simple tricks, so they do have a memory of some sort. However, that does not mean that they have emotions or psychological needs the way we understand them. I do believe that pet owners should do the best they can for their pets, regardless of what emotional damage may or may not be possible. That's just the responsible thing to do.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 2/22/05 - 9:41:45 PM EST (GMT-5)
i just have goldfish right now, 3
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 2/22/05 - 11:26:24 PM EST (GMT-5)
I would like to tell all PETA members "Hey, there's a homeless man down the street who could use your help. You know, a HUMAN!!" I understand that if you have a pet, it's your responsibility to care for it, but to spend so much energy on animals when there are millions of people suffering makes me sick.
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 2/22/05 - 11:32:19 PM EST (GMT-5)
Beta's do not need a lot of room to move around. They are African pond fish. In their natural habit they go to a small area, stay there, and guard it. That is why Betas are marketed the way the are. You don't see people who have angel fish or Oscars swimming around in a vase do you???
16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 2/22/05 - 11:47:14 PM EST (GMT-5)
"Beautiful animals, whether exotic colored fish or downright sexy human wives, all have that aesthetic quality. And this is no different than lusting over somebody, it's placing emphasis on material (carnal) visual pleasure. Living organisms are very often pleasing to the eye. Something or somebody isn't reduced to item status just cuz they look good; it's not demeaning. It's a beneficial side effect of being a physical entity."

What? The? Crap?

16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 2/22/05 - 11:47:24 PM EST (GMT-5)
Deadkel, PETA gives fur coats that have been donated to them to homeless people in the winter. And just because there are humans who are suffering doesn't mean we shouldn't also look out for non-human animals.

I'm a vegan and involved in animal rights issues, but my real passion is human rights issues and I'm actually much more involved in human rights activism than I am animal rights activism. The two are definitely not mutually exclusive.

16 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Tuesday 2/22/05 - 11:50:16 PM EST (GMT-5)
Well I see I confused somebody already.

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