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1,010 hits Rate me! Share Favorite | Flag 17 years ago by KikiPeepers

Are gender roles still important in today`s society?


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17 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Thursday 2/10/05 - 11:30:44 AM EST (GMT-5)
That first one's a woman?
17 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Thursday 2/10/05 - 11:42:58 AM EST (GMT-5)
Apparently so, from the amount of discussion they engender (no pun intended). My generation is only one removed from bra-burning and the end of the beehive-hairdo, jello-mold making, happy little wifey image. I hardly think enough time has passed for the issue to be moot.
17 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Thursday 2/10/05 - 11:44:25 AM EST (GMT-5)
MMmmmmm Jello-mold....
17 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Thursday 2/10/05 - 11:49:15 AM EST (GMT-5)

17 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Thursday 2/10/05 - 11:55:56 AM EST (GMT-5)
even though i do not agree that gender should play a role in todays society. i think it alot of ways it still dose
17 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Thursday 2/10/05 - 11:58:24 AM EST (GMT-5)
In the US women make $.75 on the dollar compared to men.

I would have to say yes, gender does still play a role.

17 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Thursday 2/10/05 - 12:02:24 PM EST (GMT-5)
Perhaps you can share some of the reasons that women make only 75% of what men make...

17 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Thursday 2/10/05 - 12:02:50 PM EST (GMT-5)
No.
17 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Thursday 2/10/05 - 12:05:06 PM EST (GMT-5)
Could the fact that women tend to work in lower paying jobs? I know that it is much more common to see a female secretary than it is to see a female engineer...

Could time off taken by (mostly) women have any effect on their earnings? Do women tend to give up promotions in favor of avoiding time away from their family more often than men?

17 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Thursday 2/10/05 - 12:08:12 PM EST (GMT-5)
Well, I know that some jobs - government, for example - make no distinction based on gender for their pay scales.

But there are others - service, manufacturing - where I have heard that this is a problem. The sexual discrimination suit filed against Wal-Mart (I believe last year) had as one of its allegations that men were paid more than women for the same jobs.

I also wonder whether the 75% statistic accounts for all types of jobs, only manufacturing jobs, etc.

17 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Thursday 2/10/05 - 12:09:21 PM EST (GMT-5)
women may appear to make less then men comparatively, but men also hold more of the higher paying jobs. A study shows that 72% of girls lose complete interest in math and science in grade 6 and it is in those fields that all the money is.
17 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Thursday 2/10/05 - 12:14:36 PM EST (GMT-5)
Where is this study?

The department of cell and molecular biology in my university has a great number of women, both in senior faculty positions and (in greater proportion) in the graduate programs.

I'd be willing to bet money that women are less concentrated in higher-level positions because those jobs take decades of ladder-climbing. For a lot of them, one would have had to start working 20 years ago, when gender roles were even more pronounced.

As time passes, I think the playing field will level. There are more girls today that take it for granted that they can succeed in any field. Being female isn't as daunting today as it was for my mother, and will be even less so for my daughter.

17 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Thursday 2/10/05 - 12:21:39 PM EST (GMT-5)
I believe that the 75% includes all jobs...

I don't know what the result of the Walmart lawsuit turned out to be. As I understood the case, the pay inequities weren't for the same positions, it was the lack of females in higher positions and accusations that females were unfairly passed over for promotions.

It has been only recently the number of female college grads has exceeded males. It is going to take time for the pay levels to even out. If the current trend continues, women will actually be outearning men in a few years...

17 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Thursday 2/10/05 - 12:25:25 PM EST (GMT-5)
"Could the fact that women tend to work in lower paying jobs? I know that it is much more common to see a female secretary than it is to see a female engineer..."


I think that proves the point of gender inequality right there.

17 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Thursday 2/10/05 - 12:27:24 PM EST (GMT-5)
Why would that be proof gender inequality? It's more of an issue of personal choices than of equality...
17 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Thursday 2/10/05 - 12:28:25 PM EST (GMT-5)
is it inequal because women decide to become secretaries instead of become an engineer?
17 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Thursday 2/10/05 - 12:29:29 PM EST (GMT-5)
maybe women earn less because they agree to work for less, or to take lower paying jobs.
17 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Thursday 2/10/05 - 10:48:34 PM EST (GMT-5)
The whole gender-wage thing has been changing a lot lately - the last I've heard on the subject, women and men were almost even as far as salaries were going. Women now make 91% of what men do, which is substantially higher than it was even 10 years ago:

http://www.boston.com/business/globe/art...

My question wasn't really thinking about that though, although it's fine to discuss that as well. I'm just thinking more about gender roles such as women cooking, men being doctors, etc. Does it seem like the line has blurred and it doesn't matter what different sexes do? I think pretty soon the gender roles our parents grew up with and we got from them won't exist any more.

17 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Friday 2/11/05 - 1:26:17 PM EST (GMT-5)
I say what does it matter as long as we get paid. I'm a woman in the military, so I say gender roles aren't as apparent anymore. I can understand why women aren't in the Seals, but society has come leaps and bounds in the past 50 years.

It's too bad that this doesn't mean that sexism is abolished, but one can only dream.

17 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Friday 2/11/05 - 3:47:55 PM EST (GMT-5)
I think the gender binary is stupid. I mean, men and women are capable of doing the same jobs. Men can be burses and women can be soldiers.
17 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Sunday 2/13/05 - 2:29:08 PM EST (GMT-5)
I think that gender roles still exsist, but they are descreasing.
17 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Saturday 2/26/05 - 3:52:54 AM EST (GMT-5)
Although blatant sexism isn't nearly as common as it was a decade ago, its affects are still deeply rooted in society. All of the questions Cowdung presented are most likely the biggest reasons for any differences in jobs, but all of those reasons are based on the fact that women still tend to run the family. Of course there are many exceptions, but I'm pretty sure you can go up to a random stranger and bet that the "mother" of the house is the one that does the most cleaning, cooking, and child-rearing.
17 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Monday 2/28/05 - 5:09:17 PM EST (GMT-5)
No, except when it comes to professional female body builders. Thats just wrong.
17 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Monday 2/28/05 - 5:32:14 PM EST (GMT-5)
i don't see girls buying guys a drink, mabe wee need those 25¢ extra over women. hell, we'd spend allot more on them anyways.
17 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Monday 2/28/05 - 5:33:33 PM EST (GMT-5)
besides, sexism is bs, theirs more of allmost every other kind of discrimination. its easyer to pick on a group that dosent make up half the populaton. unless were talking middle east, when some seriose changes need to be done.

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