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590 hits Rate me! Share Favorite | Flag 17 years ago by KikiPeepers

Do you think `zero tolerance` policies make mistakes more than they bring justice?

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17 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Friday 10/22/04 - 5:21:52 PM EST (GMT-5)
Well, yes, I do think zero tolerance laws make a lot of mistakes. I don't know if they make more mistakes than justice they do, but in our country we have founded our judicial system around the principle that it is better to let a guilty criminal go than to convict an innocent citizen (innocent until proven guilty).

The law always needs to be interpretted for each individual situation. Otherwise, we wouldn't need lawyers or judges, we'd just have police officers and law makers.

17 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Friday 10/22/04 - 5:23:06 PM EST (GMT-5)
yeah they do bring more mistakes.
17 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Friday 10/29/04 - 7:35:11 PM EST (GMT-5)
they get me in trouble alot too....or at least cleensweep does...
17 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Friday 10/29/04 - 7:38:13 PM EST (GMT-5)
Zero tolerance leaves absolutely no room for error when it comes to extreme behaviors like fighting or carryng a weapon to school, but that's kind of the point. They probably end up hurting a handful of individuals, but they prevent more individuals from making such stupid mistakes in the long run.
17 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Saturday 10/30/04 - 5:27:07 PM EST (GMT-5)
I still think that there should be some room for judgement in the application of those laws. For instance, kids who get expelled from school for having vitamins (no pills allowed) or 6 year olds who get kicked out of school for having bright pink plastic squirt guns. It's uncalled for.
17 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Saturday 10/30/04 - 7:52:24 PM EST (GMT-5)
I think those types of punishments get overturned, catchall, and they stand as warnings to kids who would bring anything more serious.
17 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Saturday 10/30/04 - 7:58:52 PM EST (GMT-5)
the trouble with zero tolerance is that there's no grey areas.
17 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Saturday 10/30/04 - 8:09:45 PM EST (GMT-5)
Zero tolerance means that you won't consider that any reason or motive might be good enough. At all. In my view there sometimes are.

On the other hand I don't live in a country where a lot of people keep guns.

17 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Monday 11/1/04 - 2:21:48 AM EST (GMT-5)
Zero Tolerance scenario: You are in a school with a ZT drug policy. You find a prescribed drug on the ground. Turn it in or not?

If you answered either possibility to this question, you are subject to suspension on Zero Tolerance rule grounds.

17 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Monday 11/1/04 - 7:16:33 AM EST (GMT-5)
That's not true, Malletman. If you turn it in and explain that you found it on the ground, you aren't going to get suspended. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous. That's just an outright lie.
17 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Wednesday 2/16/05 - 7:42:01 PM EST (GMT-5)
zero tolerance...kid that dresses in all black everyday, but gets straight A's, finds a butter knife on the floor of the girls' bathroom. kid takes it to the police officer on campus and explains what happened. the kid is put in AEP (ISS)for the rest of the year. that's unfair. and it happened at my school. i thought it was stupid, and we tried to organize a protest, especially since the student responsible for the knife came clean and got nothing for it, but we were told unless the parent of the kid complained, they wouldn't take it back. zero tolerance SUCKS!
17 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Saturday 3/5/05 - 10:54:31 PM EST (GMT-5)
Here are some examples of what happened under zero tolerance while I was in high school:

1. The administration compiled a list of everyone who they considered likely to incite violence in school. The list included anyone who dressed differenly or was a minority.

2. A group of cheerleaders decided that they didn't like a friend of mine because she was a lesbian. They told the school administration that she had threatened to shoot them at the upcoming pep rally. My friend was expelled, and never returned to any high school again because of her traumatic experience.

These are two reasons I consider zero tolerance to be an unjust policy.

17 yrs ago - Thursday 5/5/05 - 1:17:55 PM EST (GMT-5)
I don't know if it hinders more than helps, but I do know the only time I was exposed to it in high school was when a friend of mine got suspended for several days. He'd been driving his kid brother around and the kid accidently left his toy gun in the car. I thought that was very unfair.

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