ASHINGTON, Aug. 8 - For months, the would-be revolutionaries plotted strategy and lobbied local politicians here with the age-old plea, 'No taxation without representation!' Last month, some of the unlikely insurgents - Ethiopian-born restaurateurs, travel agents and real estate developers in sober business suits - declared that victory finally seemed within reach. 

Five City Council members announced their support for a bill that would allow thousands of immigrants to vote in local elections here, placing the nation's capital among a handful of cities across the country in the forefront of efforts to offer voting rights to noncitizens. 

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Should immigrants that do not have citizenship be allowed to vote in American elections?
ASHINGTON, Aug. 8 - For months, the would-be revolutionaries plotted strategy and lobbied local politicians here with the age-old plea, `No taxation without representation!` Last month, some of the unlikely insurgents - Ethiopian-born restaurateurs, travel agents and real estate developers in sober business suits - declared that victory finally seemed within reach.

Five City Council members announced their support for a bill that would allow thousands of immigrants to vote in local elections here, placing the nation`s capital among a handful of cities across the country in the forefront of efforts to offer voting rights to noncitizens.

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18 yrs ago - Thursday 9/9/04 - 2:07:27 AM EST (GMT-5)
If they pay taxes, they should vote, but not the people that are just here.
18 yrs ago - Thursday 9/9/04 - 2:24:46 AM EST (GMT-5)
I believe that only American Citizens should be allowed to vote. If I immigrated to Canada I would not expect to have a say in the way they run their country.
18 yrs ago - Thursday 9/9/04 - 6:05:04 AM EST (GMT-5)
No.
18 yrs ago - Thursday 9/9/04 - 6:06:35 AM EST (GMT-5)
GOD no. They need to become actual official citizens first.
it burns me up when they expect to be able to vote
18 yrs ago - Thursday 9/9/04 - 6:14:45 AM EST (GMT-5)
Meg-They get everything handed to them as it is. They already get our money for free, free healthcare, WIC, Well-fare, F**king EVERYTHING! I find it hard to scrounge up change in the morning for a cup of coffee. It's time to close the door! We're losing badly to the rest of the world and nobody realizes it. Our economy is being raped. If they get the right to vote, then we lose.
18 yrs ago - Thursday 9/9/04 - 6:27:54 AM EST (GMT-5)
I agree completely andy. It makes me so sick when I hear these kooks come on radio shows and tv shows and actually stick up for these non-citizens! I almost ran my car off the road last year when they had all those debates about illegals getting drivers licenses!
18 yrs ago - Thursday 9/9/04 - 6:34:09 AM EST (GMT-5)
no, i don't believe that non-citizens should be allowed to vote.
17 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Tuesday 9/28/04 - 7:25:05 PM EST (GMT-5)
NO. Why should people who are not citizens of our country be allowed to choose who our leaders are?
17 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Tuesday 9/28/04 - 7:26:44 PM EST (GMT-5)
Any individual who is made to pay taxes should get a say in how they are spent. If you don't want to let them vote, you shouldn't tax them, can't have your cake and eat it too.
17 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Tuesday 9/28/04 - 7:30:09 PM EST (GMT-5)
I don't think they should be aloud too without citizenship. It just doesn't seem right, without the citizenship I feel like there just not quite part of the country yet. I mean citizenship it what makes the part of the country.
17 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Tuesday 9/28/04 - 7:42:30 PM EST (GMT-5)
If they are paying taxes, yes.
17 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Tuesday 9/28/04 - 11:38:38 PM EST (GMT-5)
Exactly what Andres said.
17 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 9/29/04 - 6:25:21 AM EST (GMT-5)
Well, all you "if they are paying taxes they should have a vote" people, anyone who comes here and purchases anything besides food is paying taxes. Should they all get a vote? That is a week argument to allow non-citizens voting rights.

If they want to be a part of the democracy, let them renounce citizenship of their homeland and become American citizens. Otherwise, they are merely guests here, and paying taxes is just one of thousands of laws we expect our guests to obey.

17 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 9/29/04 - 6:53:51 AM EST (GMT-5)
Of course not. Why should non-citizens have any say in who runs the country?
17 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 9/29/04 - 8:20:51 AM EST (GMT-5)
"Well, all you "if they are paying taxes they should have a vote" people, anyone who comes here and purchases anything besides food is paying taxes. Should they all get a vote?"

I pay taxes on food.

Also, I doubt they are refering to sales taxes. If they are then I agree with you, that is a weak argument. Sales taxes are paid for the use of an item, which any person who wishes use of that item should pay.

17 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 9/29/04 - 8:43:43 AM EST (GMT-5)
No, No, No!
17 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 9/29/04 - 8:47:37 AM EST (GMT-5)
NO!!
17 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 9/29/04 - 11:41:44 AM EST (GMT-5)
Unhailey, you are right. I forgot about prepared food. I was thinking only of stuff at the grocery store, but I forgot about restaurants, etc.
17 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 9/29/04 - 11:50:25 AM EST (GMT-5)
Sales tax on food varies from state to state. In NC, we pay 4% on food, 7% on everything else.
17 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 9/29/04 - 12:05:13 PM EST (GMT-5)
Paying sales tax does not entitle you to vote. PAying fed tax does. Sales tax is a state tax and helps pay for roads and community services. If you're not a citizen, you still get to use those services, I don't have a problem with you having to pay sales tax. If you don't like it, you can always go home.
Oh, and my answer is obviously, a resounding NO.
17 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Thursday 9/30/04 - 5:43:57 AM EST (GMT-5)
I don't think paying federal taxes entitles one to vote, either, dacash.
17 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Thursday 9/30/04 - 5:50:42 AM EST (GMT-5)
" free healthcare"

Since when does anyone here get that?

It's much like voting between states. I'm a Tennessee resident, but I'm a student in California. I could vote in CA as a student, but I'm registered as a resident in TN, so my vote is cast in TN, not CA. I can't vote in both places.

So in that case, if someone is a citizen of a foriegn country, they should not be voting in ours (unless they have dual citizenship).

However, if they are asked to pay federal/state taxes, then it should be required that they are able to gain citizenship and thus be able to vote.

17 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Thursday 9/30/04 - 5:58:19 AM EST (GMT-5)
" free healthcare"
Since when does anyone here get that?

Dude, you should know that - especially if you live in California

17 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 2/3/05 - 8:03:24 PM EST (GMT-5)
Seems everyone's of a like mind, and I'm no different, though I've a few choice words to spill out. Before we blame it on the immigrants [we welcome everyone, aww, how sweet], first, recall something from roughly, three or four months ago.

Temporary citizenship for every Mexican currently residing in the United States. Who said that? Shrub Jr., that's who. Why? The Vote.

Personally speaking, I live in the South. And for the most part, I'm very racially lax. I don't mind minorities. But lately, I've come to hate the Mexicans with a passion. Why? Their only excuse to be here, is the money. Because they've got a shoddy govt., they come here for the money. It's not, 'A war torn home' or 'education' or even a 'tyrannical govt.' they're fleeing. No. They screwed their own home up. Their own finances. And want ours.

Bush, for giving your stamp of approval on that?
Suck a big fat donkey-dck you ccksucker.

Draw your own conclusions.

17 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 2/3/05 - 8:05:02 PM EST (GMT-5)
I dont think so, but i think they should be able to get a license! (random)



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