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Is it bad that today`s students are lacking a classical education?


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17 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Tuesday 6/15/04 - 2:25:03 PM EST (GMT-5)
And by that you mean?
17 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Monday 6/28/04 - 2:17:59 PM EST (GMT-5)
What do you mean a classical education?
17 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Monday 6/28/04 - 2:18:42 PM EST (GMT-5)
Classical? Meaning what, poise?
17 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Monday 6/28/04 - 2:21:23 PM EST (GMT-5)
yeah why isnt this to vague
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17 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Monday 6/28/04 - 2:38:48 PM EST (GMT-5)
"Classical education" is a common term, meaning that students read books that have long been considered to be intellectually and artistically weighty. They also read the great philosophers and learn about their lives and the lives and work of great scientists. They would learn foreign languages, including Latin. The backbone is literature and the arts and humanities.

And yeah, I think that students that don't receive such an aducation are missing out. In U.S. society, intellectualism is falling on the charts. And that's why people don't even know what a classical education *is*.

17 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Monday 6/28/04 - 8:32:38 PM EST (GMT-5)
Yes, but I do a lot of that stuff on my own. My friends who are in latin teach me a little bit here and there and I return the favour my teaching them a little german.
17 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Tuesday 6/29/04 - 12:04:53 PM EST (GMT-5)
I learnt Latin. I think learning by books is the best way, with technological knowledge taught alongside.
17 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Friday 7/2/04 - 1:33:32 PM EST (GMT-5)
Definately!!!! I cry when people don't understand some of the fundemental things I talk about.
17 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Friday 7/2/04 - 8:37:03 PM EST (GMT-5)
I think today's students are lacking a practical education.

How to fill out a job application, how to read a nutrition lable, how to establish credit, etc.

Many parents don't teach these skills, the school doesn't teach these skills, and the kids end up in the world and helpless.

17 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Thursday 7/8/04 - 12:10:44 PM EST (GMT-5)
I don't know about the US, but we get it up to our bloody eyeballs over here. Including doing Latin, and reading various "classics". Especially science. And there are loads of A level courses that focus on it.
17 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Thursday 7/8/04 - 12:12:27 PM EST (GMT-5)
The answer is obviously yes since so many people don't know what it is.
And I know you get to have one in Europe! We don't have one at all. It's my opinion that the practical world is stupid and easy and that everyone needs classical education FIRST. I mean, didn't you notice a change when education changed?
17 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Thursday 7/8/04 - 4:06:02 PM EST (GMT-5)
I asked because where I come from, Classical studies is Latin and the like.

Some might argue that a "classical education" is the 3 R's or whatever. I just didn't know what the true intent of the question was.

17 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Saturday 7/10/04 - 2:07:13 PM EST (GMT-5)
Each to their own.
17 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Thursday 7/15/04 - 7:59:59 PM EST (GMT-5)
classical as in "she knows math she must be a witch!" lol
17 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Thursday 7/15/04 - 8:01:49 PM EST (GMT-5)
Since I have no idea what a classical education is, yes.
17 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Thursday 7/15/04 - 8:15:10 PM EST (GMT-5)
By classical i assume you mean "european".
*sigh*
Will eastern ideas ever influence western education?

I think it depends on the origin of the information. I would love a course on classical india. But NOOO... that's too "obscure". So let's learn about the greek philosophers.

What about the middle east?

Oh yeah, we're at war with half of it. Guess we can't learn about those countries, lest we feel sympathy for them.

Sometimes the american education makes me
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17 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Friday 7/16/04 - 2:28:44 PM EST (GMT-5)
No. While there are some advantages, very little of the "Classical Age" is applicable today. Both "The Scarlet Letter" and "Franny and Zooey" discuss similar themes, but "Franny and Zooey" is a much more accessable novel.
17 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Sunday 7/18/04 - 4:17:44 PM EST (GMT-5)
Yes.. in my school, these subjects are just passed over. But, thankfully, I'm in a gifted class, so we get to learn Latin and all the other good stuff, too.
17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Saturday 7/24/04 - 5:25:35 AM EST (GMT-5)
I don't learn Latin but I'm not sure how that language will help me in future life. At my school I'm learning French and Spanish which means I should be able to communciate with a large proportion of the world if I can speak these three languages. I may be very naive here, but is Latin still spoke in parts of the world?
17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Monday 8/2/04 - 7:43:43 AM EST (GMT-5)
Classical Education is composed of the trivium. The trivium is a process of learning, and is divided into three catagories: grammar, logic and rhetoric.

Grammar is the first stage, 1st - 4th grades (grammar school!) and teaches basics of reading, writing, grammar, mathematics, science and history. It is the backbone for the other stages. History is learned in chronological order.

Stage 2 is Logic, and is from 5th to 8th grade. Instead of just repeating the lesson or story back to the parent, now the child begins to formulate his own opinions about what is read, finding out the 'why's' behind what he's learned and digging deeper into mathmatics, science, history, etc.

Stage 3, or rhetoric, starts in the 9th grade and continues from there. By now the student SHOULD know grammar and spelling. The basics are all there. The student now has a voice and not only asks why, but learns how to figure out on his own the answers to his questions.

17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Monday 8/2/04 - 7:45:13 AM EST (GMT-5)
History is the spine for classical education. That's the education I got. It's the education that my kids are getting now, in the schools they are in.
17 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Thursday 10/21/04 - 12:04:57 PM EST (GMT-5)
Sure, Classical education would benifit all students in my opinion.
17 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Sunday 10/31/04 - 1:35:53 AM EST (GMT-5)
I think that there is SO MUCH that we could teach our kids, but we don't want to make them hate school even more. And yeah, a practical education (perhaps offered as a standard elective class, like cooking?) would be helpful. Like, every day for the semester they'd learn something and then go home and practice it... and for the final, a day in the life of your parents. Heh.
17 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 12/11/04 - 6:32:07 PM EST (GMT-5)
when it comes to that kind of education, i think it should be up to the student if he/she wants to learn it.i would hate to HAVE to learn some of that stuff when i know i'll never use it in life
17 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Sunday 12/19/04 - 1:47:52 PM EST (GMT-5)
I'm in latin 3, and we learn a lot about the 'classics' which is what I enjoy. I think that the students who have an interest in learning these things have the means to do so if they look close enough. You don't need to be in a classical education program to take a book out of the library aboud Socrates. But it would be nice for students to have a more substantial background about where the fundamentals of history and language.

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