(Court TV) — Silva Swinton and her husband, Joseph, followed a strict vegan diet in their Queens home. They swore off meat and dairy products and existed on a regiment of vegetables, grains, seeds and nuts. When Silva gave birth to a daughter, Ice, in July 2000, they put the newborn on the same plan. Instead of breast milk or baby formula, Ice Swinton got herbal tea, flax seed oil, fruit juices and a homemade soy drink. The result was a health catastrophe that rises to the level of a crime. At 15 months, the girl weighed only 10 pounds and had no teeth. She could not sit up or talk and had a swollen abdomen. Doctors diagnosed her with severe malnutrition and rickets, and the Queens district attorney said it was one of the worst cases of neglect he'd seen.

The doctor who examined Ice testified that the girl, then 15 months old, looked like a newborn. He said her spindly arms and legs were bowed by rickets, her belly was distended and her skin covered in 'the worst diaper rash you ever saw.' Ice 'looked like someone you'd see coming out of a famine in a far-off country.' The EMT who took Ice to the hospital told jurors her hair was matted and filthy and her fingernails were so long and dirty as to resemble claws...
 
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443 hits 4.0 (1 vote) Share Favorite | Flag 19 years ago by KikiPeepers

Should these vegan parents be charged with attempted murder instead of assault for not feeding their child a proper diet?
(Court TV) — Silva Swinton and her husband, Joseph, followed a strict vegan diet in their Queens home. They swore off meat and dairy products and existed on a regiment of vegetables, grains, seeds and nuts. When Silva gave birth to a daughter, Ice, in July 2000, they put the newborn on the same plan. Instead of breast milk or baby formula, Ice Swinton got herbal tea, flax seed oil, fruit juices and a homemade soy drink. The result was a health catastrophe that rises to the level of a crime. At 15 months, the girl weighed only 10 pounds and had no teeth. She could not sit up or talk and had a swollen abdomen. Doctors diagnosed her with severe malnutrition and rickets, and the Queens district attorney said it was one of the worst cases of neglect he`d seen.

The doctor who examined Ice testified that the girl, then 15 months old, looked like a newborn. He said her spindly arms and legs were bowed by rickets, her belly was distended and her skin covered in `the worst diaper rash you ever saw.` Ice `looked like someone you`d see coming out of a famine in a far-off country.` The EMT who took Ice to the hospital told jurors her hair was matted and filthy and her fingernails were so long and dirty as to resemble claws...

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19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 3/27/03 - 3:18:09 PM EST (GMT-5)
yes, they should, they should have known to give the kid milk.
19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 3/27/03 - 3:46:11 PM EST (GMT-5)
It sounds as though a vegan diet was the only thing these parents were doing to harm their daughter...I think they had other serious abuse issues going on, if they couldn't even manage to keep her clean and didn't get her medical attention for 15 whole months...
19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 3/27/03 - 3:48:57 PM EST (GMT-5)
Not attempted murder, but definitely neglegt.
19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 3/27/03 - 4:16:38 PM EST (GMT-5)
These people sound like kooks. Sounds like they did more than just feed their child a vegan diet. Sounds like they neglected other duties. Yes, they need to be prosecuted.
19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 3/27/03 - 4:18:37 PM EST (GMT-5)
The question isn't asking WHETHER or not they should be prosecuted, it's asking HOW.
19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Friday 3/28/03 - 7:39:09 AM EST (GMT-5)
^^ I meant my earlier post to say "a vegan diet *wasn't* the only thing..." And to appease Kaneda before he pops a blood vessel, I don't think attempted murder is quite right. Neglect, some sort of aggravated/habitual abuse charge...There have to be varying degrees of chiuld abuse laws to differentiate cases like these.
19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Friday 3/28/03 - 8:01:15 AM EST (GMT-5)
A vegan diet is not a crime. It's actually quite healthy, even for newborn babies. I have a friend who was a vegan since he was born, and he's perfectly healthy. The only problem I have with that is the "no breast milk" thing. Human breast milk should be fed to human babies. That's what it's there for and it constitutes as a vegan diet. Everything else is fine.
19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 3/29/03 - 9:47:11 PM EST (GMT-5)
I say kick her ass for naming the kid Ice.
19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 3/29/03 - 10:17:39 PM EST (GMT-5)
if i was the emt who responded to that call, they would have to worry about trying the parents, cause id have killed them myself!
19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Friday 4/4/03 - 9:28:48 PM EST (GMT-5)
Good! I hope they get all 25 years in prison for it too.
19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Friday 4/4/03 - 9:31:23 PM EST (GMT-5)
*wondering how the hell it is that it took everyone else around them 15 months to figure out that the baby wasn't healty* they deserve every minute they get in prison...
19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Wednesday 4/23/03 - 11:26:53 AM EST (GMT-5)
They deserve to be killed. The diet is their excuse for not properly raising and attending to the child appearently. Starve them to death.
19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Friday 4/25/03 - 4:13:08 PM EST (GMT-5)
Not attempted murder because it doesn't sound like they were trying to kill the baby. It certainly was malnutrition, though. And i guess if you were going for any kind of murder charge it would need to be man slaughter.
19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Friday 4/25/03 - 4:38:05 PM EST (GMT-5)
Wow, boy does that make all of us vegans look bad. My children will be raised vegetarian, but they sure as hell won't be starved or malnurished.
19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/26/03 - 10:17:42 AM EST (GMT-5)
By vegetarian do you mean vegan? I think raising kids on a veggie diet is okay only if they are allowed dairy or some form of animal protein. Our bodies are meant to eat meat - we need the protein and God has told us He put many animals on the earth to provide for us. Denying a child any food group seems like neglect to me, no matter how good the intentions are.
19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/26/03 - 10:23:52 AM EST (GMT-5)
It's neglect. Our bodies are NOT "meant to eat meat". We are omnivores. I don't see how denying it breast milk has anything to do with a vegan philosophy.
19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/26/03 - 10:24:52 AM EST (GMT-5)
And most vegans I know are most certainly not christian so your "God has told us He put many animals on the earth to provide for us" is pointless and offensive.
19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/26/03 - 10:30:48 AM EST (GMT-5)
Neglect at least, not only the diet thing - they might not have known better, but for the other dtuff the fingernails, and nappy rash etc.
19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/26/03 - 10:34:59 AM EST (GMT-5)
*Sigh* 1. Hael, The definition of an omnivore is NOT the same as the definition of vegetarian - omnivore means we are meant to eat meat as well as veggies. That DOES mean we are meant to eat meat. 2. Denying a child breast milk DOES have to do with vegans. Vegans don't consume milk, or any animal products. Humans are animals, some wacko vegans like these parents in the story will think that also means human breast milk is bad, but they are (deadly, obviously) wrong. 3. I have a feeling you don't know too many Christians at all, vegan or otherwise. You claim (correctly) that we are omnivores, but then say it's offensive to think we have been provided with meat? I don't think you know what you feel ... and if you are the sociopath you claim to be, you wouldn't find anything offensive. You wouldn't have feelings - that's always confused me about you because you obviously have a lot of feelings.
19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/26/03 - 10:40:23 AM EST (GMT-5)
It means we can survive on either. And we can. Vegans don't consume dairy products usually because of the way animals are treated on the farms. What I said was offensive was your stupid argument that animals were put on the earth for humans. And I said it was offensive to vegans I know, not me. Haha! I don't know many christians? That's funny, considering I go to two churches and a christian school.
19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/26/03 - 10:41:06 AM EST (GMT-5)
Vegan diets are not good for babies. They need milk products.
19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/26/03 - 10:42:14 AM EST (GMT-5)
Then you must have as miserable a life as I've always assumed by the way you talk - if you are offended by hearing about something in the Bible going to a Christian school must be torture for you!
19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/26/03 - 10:43:31 AM EST (GMT-5)
Did you not read my entire post? I don't get offended. When they say something stupid I just laugh to myself about their stupidity.
19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/26/03 - 10:47:05 AM EST (GMT-5)
I sort of enjoy going to a catholic school (I am not sure how this thread got on this topic). I love challenging people on their religion.
19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/26/03 - 11:01:19 AM EST (GMT-5)
Vegans avoid milk, eggs, meat and a number of other 'toxic' foodstuffs. I'm not sure which ones specifically, some nuts and beans or something like that. Ovolactovegetarians avoid milk,eggs, and meat. Lactovegetarians avoid milk and mean, ovovegetarians avoid eggs and meat. There are a couple of other subdefinitions but I don't have enough information on the topic.

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