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If Christianity died as a religion and no one knew of Jesus anymore would the entire human species from that point onward be damned to hell?
I`m actually curious, I`m not trying to bash Christianity.

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19 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 3/26/03 - 11:40:56 AM EST (GMT-5)
also-Well said Laughie
19 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Sunday 4/13/03 - 5:38:45 AM EST (GMT-5)
I'm with Shaun, didn't christ say he'd return at some point? This would seem a good point for christ to come back, do a few miracles, and re-afirm everyone's faith
19 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 4/17/03 - 9:00:11 PM EST (GMT-5)
We already have the word of God. Why should we need anything else? I do not think that Christianity could die as a religon, but if it did, everyone would, from then on, go to hell. I don't wanna hear it from the fundamentalist bashers, cause I don't consider myself one. However, if you think that because you don't belive in it, it doesn't exist, that would have to rank up there with the same guy that said the earth is flat! Of course there is no proof of hell! Unless you read and believe the bible. But did you know that Purgatory isn't even in the bible? Not once. And yet how many people believe in that?! I have more to say, but its late....peace to you all...
19 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 4/17/03 - 9:39:16 PM EST (GMT-5)
I don't think it will happen because the Pope wouldnt let it happen because that is his job to keep Christianity alive but if that happened somehow it would be terrible because so many pagan people would go to hell and they don't know why
19 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 4/17/03 - 9:43:06 PM EST (GMT-5)
If you are really curious, that scenario is impossible according to all of the scripture I have read and the people I have talked to, you are not damned simply for not ebracing god, you are damned for denying him. The whole idea of Damnation is that you are given an opportunity to come to god if you want. According to the religion that will always be the case, if the religion cese to exist so does damnation, if the religion consists of more than just peoples faith then god will present opportunities regardless of the state of the world before damning people.
19 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Friday 4/18/03 - 3:18:27 PM EST (GMT-5)
God condemns none of us to eternal damnation. NONE of us. Ever. How could He do that and still claim to be a God of unconditional Love? What could She possibly gain from doing that to Her children? Hell is a state of mind, that we create for ourselves while in this world. The mindset of fear, lack, limitation, of denying the Light inside each of us.
19 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Friday 4/18/03 - 3:33:25 PM EST (GMT-5)
Reborn, WTF? Where the hell are you getting any of this from? It is pretty much accepted practice that when we refer to a god by capitalizing the "G," and we haven't specified otherwise, we are talking about a Christian god, or, simply, God. At least when Christians make declarative statements about what God does and doesn't do, it can be reasonably presumed that they are basing it on Biblical teachings (I'm not saying every one of us gets everything right, but that is where it comes from). With atheists and their statements about God (well, the lack thereof), at least we know where they are coming from. You, though, throw out this directionless, baseless crap that sounds like you read it off the inside of the cap of some new-age health drink, and it comes from abso-friggin-lutely nowhere. Now, if you are trying to lay some of your own, hip, homegrown philosophy on us, frame it as such. Otherwise, give a context or continue to be a joke of a hippie.
19 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Friday 4/18/03 - 3:38:09 PM EST (GMT-5)
And who are you talking about, humonculus? The question was posed by a non-Christian, and there were three people of Christian background who spoke up about it before your post without simply laughing at the question. One person said yes, basically; one person said no, basically, and I gave a thorough and balanced response about what I thought was likely. Exactly which of these posts puts you "in the frame of mind to cast a vote in favor of most Christians being 'reality challenged'..."? Or is it just that you are too biased about Christians to actually listen to anything they have to say, and you use any and every opportunity to slam them? And would you care to go a round or two about it?
19 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Friday 4/18/03 - 3:39:26 PM EST (GMT-5)
yeah and what's with that grammer? You totaly didn't need a comma after mind, way out of line!
19 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Friday 4/18/03 - 3:42:56 PM EST (GMT-5)
Truth, Uncle. You said it yourself, only the Truth is True. I believe, through my experiences, that God has spoken to my heart, and Jesus as well. I approached my "search for truth" with an open mind, with no preconceptions from any religious upbringing, so therefore when I asked to be led to the Truth, I was able to follow my own heart. For it is certainly true that any one who asks shall be answered. Are you able to accept my beliefs, even if you don't agree? Why do you feel the need to attack? Does it feel better? All I said was that God loves us, and therefore condemns none of us. And I believe that with all my heart and soul, no less than you hold your own beliefs dear. What the world seriously needs right now is spiritual tolerance. We don't have to all agree, but let's not let differences become divisions.
19 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Friday 4/18/03 - 3:44:28 PM EST (GMT-5)
First off, from my view as a Christian, it is impossible for the faith to die out. If it did, I believe that based on the ideas set forth from the bible, that God would come to someone and teach them the word and put the need in that individual's heart to spread it again. If need be, I think God would do this until it caught on again. The whole idea of the faith is based on Grace, and I can't imagine what would make God change his mind.
19 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Friday 4/18/03 - 3:49:28 PM EST (GMT-5)
You crack me up, man. If Jesus and the Christian God have spoken to you, you missed about half of it. Yeah, God is love, but it isn'yt "all good." You don't get to do, like, you know, whatever, dude, and God's totally, like, cool and copacetic with it. You're not right-on about the God I know, and to claim everything is so cool is not just negligent of what isn't cool, it's hilarious, dude, I mean, you're far out. Tolerance does not mean anything goes. As a Christian, I love all people (theoretically, I fall short a lot), but that doesn't mean I accept everything they do. That's not tolerance. That's being a rug. Man.
19 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Friday 4/18/03 - 3:51:43 PM EST (GMT-5)
To answer you question, Uncle, about the source of my beliefs, no they do not come from abso-friggin-lutely nowhere. If you care to research and see for yourself, I can recommend these books: Conversations With God, by Neale Donald Walsche A Course of Love, By Mari Perron A Course In Miracles
19 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Friday 4/18/03 - 3:53:01 PM EST (GMT-5)
I respectfully disagree. But I allow you to see things that way. It's your choice.
19 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Friday 4/18/03 - 3:55:31 PM EST (GMT-5)
Oh, so I have your permission to believe what I believe? Thanks, dude! You're the hip-happenest, dude! So if I believe in killing a virgin every full moon to appease the Sugar Smacks bear, would you say, "Hey, that's cool; it's your choice; I will allow you to think that way"?
19 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Friday 4/18/03 - 3:57:54 PM EST (GMT-5)
Sure. That doesn't mean you'll escape the consequences of such an act - but I will allow you to try it, and then maybe learn through the experience what most of us probably already know, lol.
19 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Friday 4/18/03 - 4:01:50 PM EST (GMT-5)
This discussion raises some questions : would people who belong to a religion that knows no God or Jesus go to hell too ? And who decides which religion is right ? And why do people always believe that their religion is the truth, hereby dismissing other religions as not the truth ? Can I (as a total non-believer) go to hell if I deny hell's existance ?
19 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Friday 4/18/03 - 4:13:41 PM EST (GMT-5)
Okay, Reborn: you're wrong. There are bad things out there, and if you fail to condemn them as such, you tacitly approve of them. Accepting everything is disrespect to things that are truly worthy of acceptance. w8in: 1. Either Gos has given everyone a fair chance to know Jesus, or He has some other back-up plan, and Jesus' "Only through me" speech in the Bible were hyperbole. If Christians are so willing to take it on faith that we don't know everyhting about God, we ought to be willing to accept this latter case as a possibility. 2. God decide*D* (past tense) what was right, and will judge it so in the end. See aghain response to #1. 3. Why do you believe that the things you believe are true: that so-and-so is faithful, honest, and loves you? Belief, by definition, is about what someone thinks is true. As for the exclusivity...
19 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Friday 4/18/03 - 4:16:47 PM EST (GMT-5)
..., it makes it a lot easier to choose and commit, on the one hand. It's less confusing. And, well, unless everyone has a back-up plan provided by God, some *ONE* group *IS* right. Pray that it is yours. Or don't, actually. And again, see #1. 4. Can you walk across a chasm by denying its existence? No, says logic, though I bet you've never actually tried. I suppose you'll either find out that yes, you can go to Hell, or you won't find anything out, because you'll just be dead. Or, if you want to cover all bases, you just might be in for some Heavenly crow-eating and a bunch of "I told you so"s if you get a reprieve for your connections or something.
19 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Friday 4/18/03 - 4:18:34 PM EST (GMT-5)
Yet another judgment. How can you insist that I'm wrong? Accepting is not condoning, it is simply respecting every individual's right and freedom to choose for themselves. And learn for themselves. Anyway, it's been fun, but I must go now. Thanks for the opportunity to learn a bit more about myself.
19 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Friday 4/18/03 - 4:21:08 PM EST (GMT-5)
Okay, two can play this Tonto-on-a-Mountain game: The failure to judge is in itself a judgement. When you do not judge, your inner being says yes.
19 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Friday 4/18/03 - 4:47:33 PM EST (GMT-5)
wow, i like you uncle... lol it's kind of frustrating, yet almost funny, to see some non-christians replies to the question and to the posts. if you don't know what you are talking about, don't say anything. adam and eve had more than 2 children. and also, don't mock people's religions and faiths. at least, don't do it here. you'll get your assed kicked on here, believe me. well, that's not possible, but you know what i mean people here are very strong on their opinions, and don't you try to mess with them. especially with people's religions, you don't do that. you can question things, yes. but don't you dare mock my God. :)
19 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Friday 4/18/03 - 4:59:11 PM EST (GMT-5)
No.I think actions are more important to Christianity than faith. Sounds crazy.But if the most important commandments are love god and love your neighbor,I cant see how a Hindu's good actions arent inadvertatly Christian
19 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Friday 4/18/03 - 5:02:15 PM EST (GMT-5)
by one definition good actions are considered christian actually...
19 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Friday 4/18/03 - 5:02:51 PM EST (GMT-5)
those aren't the most important commandments. the most important commandment is to love your God, to create no false Gods. above all, we should fear God. yeah, love is pretty high up there too, but love for the Lord is what gets you up to the good place

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