City May Give Undiplomas to Dropouts 
Tue Jan 21, 7:56 AM ET

YORK, Pa. - The head of the city's school district wants every potential dropout to have something to remember what could be a short-lived school career: an undiploma. York City School District Superintendent Carlos Lopez wants to give the document, which looks like a real diploma, to students who say they want to drop out of William Penn Senior High School. 

The undiploma informs students about what they stand to lose by not finishing their education and says the recipient has decided to drop out 'with the full understanding that he/she may lose up to $420,000 in earnings during his/her lifetime' by working in low-wage jobs or being unemployed...

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Should all high school dropouts be given these `undiplomas`? See story.
City May Give Undiplomas to Dropouts

Tue Jan 21, 7:56 AM ET

YORK, Pa. - The head of the city`s school district wants every potential dropout to have something to remember what could be a short-lived school career: an undiploma. York City School District Superintendent Carlos Lopez wants to give the document, which looks like a real diploma, to students who say they want to drop out of William Penn Senior High School.

The undiploma informs students about what they stand to lose by not finishing their education and says the recipient has decided to drop out `with the full understanding that he/she may lose up to $420,000 in earnings during his/her lifetime` by working in low-wage jobs or being unemployed...

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19 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Monday 1/27/03 - 6:02:12 PM EST (GMT-5)
As a scare tactic, it might keep a few people in school. But if someone is determined to leave school, an undiploma is not going to stop them. Seems like a silly idea to me.
19 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Monday 1/27/03 - 7:45:42 PM EST (GMT-5)
I thought it was a really good idea, but I guess you are right too Mike - if they are dropping out of school I doubt it would change their minds.
19 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Monday 1/27/03 - 7:47:33 PM EST (GMT-5)
Yeah, but it could stop some, which is more important than stopping no one. It's a good idea, as long as it stops someone, it's worthwhile.
19 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Wednesday 2/26/03 - 8:51:48 PM EST (GMT-5)
yea, i think it'll be a good eye opener for those kids
19 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Wednesday 2/26/03 - 8:53:14 PM EST (GMT-5)
i like it. it makes you never forget, down the line, you screwed yourself over. mebbe those same people would go back for GEDs.
19 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Thursday 2/27/03 - 4:16:06 AM EST (GMT-5)
I think it's a ridiculous and stupid idea. The concept of 'undiplomas' is demeaning and offensive. Not everyone has to - or should be made to - complete high school if they don't want to. True, some drop-outs leave thoughtlessly - but there are others who do it for quite valid reasons. Some may not be able to complete high school, for personal or financial reasons, while some may simply find it unsatisfying - and other options, like adult education in the future, may be far more suitable. A high-school diploma is something - but it's not everything. At times, I think too much is made of graduating from high school - and the notion that those don't graduate are automatically losers is wrong.
19 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Monday 3/17/03 - 10:56:34 PM EST (GMT-5)
thats pretty offensive to any dropouts. not all dropouts, leave school because theyre lazy and dont wont to wake up early enough for school. i dropped out of school when i was in the 9th grade, because i was told i could drop out or be expelled for my excessive inapropriate behavior. so giving kids an "undiploma" is just stupid. if they dropped out, im sure they have had enough poo, hearing about how they should have completed high school.
19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Tuesday 4/8/03 - 12:31:26 PM EST (GMT-5)
I agree with the two posts above. It's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard of.
19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 4/10/03 - 7:27:35 AM EST (GMT-5)
I think it's retarded. It wouldn't have changed my mind, I would have laughed.
19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 4/10/03 - 7:30:36 AM EST (GMT-5)
In theory it's a good idea, but in reality those dropouts will soon face the real world and find that they are the ones (unless they can learn a trade) that are destined for poverty, low wages, and less respect than their educated counterparts.
19 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 4/10/03 - 9:49:14 AM EST (GMT-5)
Elemints you didn't graduate from high school?
19 yrs ago - Thursday 5/22/03 - 11:10:52 AM EST (GMT-5)
I wouldn't take one if I dropped out. Some people might think of it as a reward.
19 yrs ago - Thursday 5/22/03 - 11:14:04 AM EST (GMT-5)
Good meaning behind the idea but I dont think kids that drop out are thinking logically like that.
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Monday 10/20/03 - 10:01:19 PM EST (GMT-5)
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Monday 10/20/03 - 10:21:23 PM EST (GMT-5)
More money wasted - why not take the potential dropouts on a ghetto and prison tour and tell them this is how it's gonna be for them?
16 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Friday 3/3/06 - 12:18:07 PM EST (GMT-5)



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