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Is Islam the most popular religion in the world?

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18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 10/3/02 - 9:15:15 AM EST (GMT-5)
not all atheists think that rufio.
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 10/3/02 - 9:15:16 AM EST (GMT-5)
so you get included in the other category, whats the problem with you, your not religious, so why would your exclusion on a pie chart labled World Religious Composition, bother you?
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 10/3/02 - 9:19:52 AM EST (GMT-5)
Its like getting pissed off that Scientology is not mentioned... so what, does it make your philosophy of athiesm less prevalent? NO... does it vertify your ideals and morality? NO... its a f*ckin pie chart... you are in the Other, and your stuck there untill you get Baptized or praise Buddah...
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 10/3/02 - 9:21:26 AM EST (GMT-5)
Rufio: Many atheists simply don't see the point in believing in God. There's no more thought to it.
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 10/3/02 - 9:22:25 AM EST (GMT-5)
Neon - then they aren't atheists. If they don't actively deny the existence of god, they are agnostic. Scientology is not a religion. It's not a personal thing. That's what I meant by saying that I'd be in the other section anyway. It's what's right. That chart is wrong.
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 10/3/02 - 9:22:58 AM EST (GMT-5)
Kaneda - if you simply don't see the point, you're agnostic.
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 10/3/02 - 9:24:34 AM EST (GMT-5)
An Agnostic isn't certain either way. An Atheist believes there is no God. End. I did phrase that badly, but you see what I mean now.
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 10/3/02 - 9:25:21 AM EST (GMT-5)
For some strange reason, many people keep getting the idea that atheism is itself some sort of religion. Maybe it is because these people are so caught up in their own religious beliefs that they cannot imagine any person living without religion of some sort. Maybe it is due to some persistent misunderstanding of what atheism is. And maybe they just don't care that what they are saying really doesn't make any sense.
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 10/3/02 - 9:26:35 AM EST (GMT-5)
Does atheism have anything approaching "clearly defined rules?" Not in the least. There is only one "rule," and that is the rule of the definition of "atheism" - not having any belief in any gods. Other than that, atheists are free to do whatever they want and still be called atheists. An atheist can do and believe absolutely anything beyond gods and still fit the definition. Quite the opposite of how "rules" are treated in a religion. This is one area where a misunderstanding of what atheism is probably comes into play.
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 10/3/02 - 9:26:51 AM EST (GMT-5)
Perhaps it is because a lot of Atheists feel the need to try to convert everyone else to their (non)beliefs.
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 10/3/02 - 9:27:19 AM EST (GMT-5)
Does atheism contain "...a philosophy by which to live?" Atheists certainly have philosophies by which they live. A popular philosophy might be Secular Humanism. Another might be objectivism. Still another could be some form of Buddhism. There is not, however, a clearly defined philosophy common to all or even most atheists. In fact, there is nothing inherent in the disbelief in god(s) which leads a person to any philosophy of life (although a person without such a philosophy might be a bit strange). Quite the opposite of how 'philosophy of life' is treated in a religion.
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 10/3/02 - 9:30:02 AM EST (GMT-5)
Exactly. Atheists believe there is no god. And it is a belief in exactly the same way that any belief IN god is a belief. I'm not sure what you're saying about rules.
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 10/3/02 - 9:30:31 AM EST (GMT-5)
scientology is a, belive it or not, credited religion in almost 20 states... they just built a church here and had a hell of a time getting the state of FL to grant it tax excemption... by the way, a trick to statistics is to have an allowable margin of error... in this case, the 3% other category fits that... you and every non-god-faring person in the world, is included within the confines of the purple slice... whats wrong with that, do you not like purple or something? do you not want to be associated with the cool wicca people? whats wrong? I just dont see how you can be offended, when as a true athiest you are not supposed to care about organized religions... Oh, and sorry for ranting back there, I havent had lunch, shoulda never cussed at ya...
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 10/3/02 - 9:31:50 AM EST (GMT-5)
Rufio: Not exactly the same. A belief in something is vastly different from a disbelief in somethign. Atheist do not believe in God, but they think nothing more of it. Atheism isn't a lifestyle. Religion is.
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 10/3/02 - 9:32:51 AM EST (GMT-5)
Any two atheists might have as much in common as a Christian and a devout believer in Odin - both of whom are obviously theists. Although some person's understanding of their existence might contain a principle of atheism, that atheism is not itself the means to understanding. The belief in an objectively existing world is a common assumption, too - but the people who share it don't belong to a common religion, now do they? Besides, since many atheists don't believe that gods "exist" and, hence, aren't a part of "existence", that disbelief doesn't have to be seen as understanding "existence". I don't believe in the Tooth Fairy, and that disbelief isn't a means of understanding our existence, doesn't have an eschatology, and certainly has no clearly defined rules.
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 10/3/02 - 9:33:16 AM EST (GMT-5)
Atheism is a disbelief, not a philosophy. My disbelief in the Tooth Fairy is not a philosophy of life - is it for anyone else? Furthermore, a philosophy of life is not necessarily a religion and it doesn't necessitate that a religious belief exists in the person with the philosophy.
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 10/3/02 - 9:33:19 AM EST (GMT-5)
you are trying to justify your ideals by in a sense creating what you are against... do you get me? you are trying to make athiesm a religion, when athiesm is opposed to religion, on the principle that for them its illogical to belive in a diety...
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 10/3/02 - 9:33:34 AM EST (GMT-5)
So if they get tax exemption it means it's a religion? That's not the purpose of the chart, delmar. I'm not offended. How many times must I say this? And the goddamn slice is blue. Philosophy by which to live? You mean, moral premise? Real religion doesn't neccessarily involve moral premise - that's personal thing. Or an institutional thing. Not a religious thing specifically. Religion is about whatever deity or ideal you believe is absolute.
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 10/3/02 - 9:34:08 AM EST (GMT-5)
its a generalised pie chart, rufio.. putting athiesm in non-religious would be much less confusing to everyone.
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 10/3/02 - 9:34:10 AM EST (GMT-5)
Atheism is the belief that there is no god.
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 10/3/02 - 9:35:17 AM EST (GMT-5)
your chasing your tail rufio... why would athiest need to validate their non-belief in god, by being listed as a religion... your not making sense...
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 10/3/02 - 9:35:24 AM EST (GMT-5)
I am aware that morals have nothing to do with religion.
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 10/3/02 - 9:35:55 AM EST (GMT-5)
Ruf: You need to inform yourself more on the subject. And don't start asking me to explain it all to you as you usually do, my time on the net is limited these days, and I gotta go eat, maybe someone else here will oblige.
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 10/3/02 - 9:36:00 AM EST (GMT-5)
so the belief that there is no Santa Claus is now a religion if we follow your logic.
18 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 10/3/02 - 9:36:12 AM EST (GMT-5)
God has everything to do with existence. It's the definition of god.

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