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SuprSmashBro
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1 yr ago, 5 mos ago - Monday 5/1/17 - 9:56:55 AM EST (GMT-5)
Good, people are logical, finally.
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1 yr ago, 5 mos ago - Monday 5/1/17 - 9:58:58 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 4/24/17 - 2:43:26 PM cszulins wrote:
No. And there have been so many famous cases where we all knew they were guilty. |
Since we all know when people are guilty, maybe we can just do away with our courts system then...
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1 yr ago, 4 mos ago - Tuesday 6/13/17 - 6:07:29 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Sunday 5/29/16 - 4:41:34 AM skyfish wrote:
like i know that it doesn't necessarily mean that's the case, but i try to, because that seems the fairest to me, and you have to take some things on faith for the whole system to work |
This. And I like what abz said too.
"There is not one who is good..." - Jesus
We all are guilty, so we have to treat each other with forgiveness, look on each others actions in the best possible light and move on. Otherwise the finger pointing and fault finding would never end. |
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cszulins
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1 yr ago, 3 mos ago - Tuesday 6/20/17 - 12:23:33 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 4/24/17 - 2:43:26 PM cszulins wrote:
No. And there have been so many famous cases where we all knew they were guilty. |
On Monday 5/1/17 - 9:58:58 AM CowDung wrote:
Since we all know when people are guilty, maybe we can just do away with our courts system then... |
That's not what I said. I never said we all know when they are ALL guilty. |
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1 yr ago, 3 mos ago - Tuesday 6/20/17 - 2:08:34 PM EST (GMT-5)
I'm not saying that you did...
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cszulins
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1 yr ago, 3 mos ago - Tuesday 6/20/17 - 5:33:58 PM EST (GMT-5)
So we still need our court system then. It just needs improved.
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1 yr ago, 3 mos ago - Wednesday 6/21/17 - 8:18:07 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 6/20/17 - 5:33:58 PM cszulins wrote:
So we still need our court system then. It just needs improved. |
My point was that we really don't need a court system if 'we all know' whether a person is guilty or not.
The 'improvement' you claim is needed is really just saying that the court system is sometimes out of line with the results of the trial by media in the court of public opinion. Personally, I'd rather stick with actual evidence, presented at trial to convict the guilty and free those who are not.
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writingguru
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1 yr ago, 3 mos ago - Tuesday 7/18/17 - 1:15:14 AM EST (GMT-5)
no, but we don't know. that's the point. but not enough to prove guilt
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XatuGravelz
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1 yr ago - Wednesday 9/27/17 - 11:19:16 PM EST (GMT-5)
I go with the 'assumed innocent until proven guilty' idea.
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cronch
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1 yr ago - Friday 10/13/17 - 5:58:40 PM EST (GMT-5)
All humans are sinful.
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Hurricane_
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11 months ago - Sunday 10/22/17 - 2:45:34 AM EST (GMT-5)
To be honest lolgirlz, you're ugly. You look so basic and fake.
Also no I do not. Many times a guilty person is found not-guilty. And they are actually guilty.
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xgizmox
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11 months ago - Monday 10/30/17 - 12:32:37 AM EST (GMT-5)
Ha, absolutely not.
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kamahkahzee
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11 months ago - Saturday 11/11/17 - 2:04:42 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 9/27/17 - 11:19:16 PM XatuGravelz wrote:
I go with the 'assumed innocent until proven guilty' idea. |
I agree with you, but I would take it even further and say that I am more likely to believe someone is innocent even when a defendant is "found" guilty. So what I believe is similar to what some others have mentioned only I tend to have a bias to the defense based on my own experiences. |
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RyooJanren
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8 months ago - Saturday 1/20/18 - 9:44:03 AM EST (GMT-5)
If a defendant is found "not guilty" you should never assume that they are innocent because the number of people who lie in court is bigger than the number of people who tell the truth. People have the ability to manipulate the jury to believe their story and it happens more often then people think
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8 months ago - Sunday 1/21/18 - 2:56:05 AM EST (GMT-5)
] On Tuesday 6/13/17 - 6:07:29 AM dacash wrote:
This. And I like what abz said too. "There is not one who is good..." - Jesus We all are guilty, so we have to treat each other with forgiveness, look on each others actions in the best possible light and move on. Otherwise the finger pointing and fault finding would never end. |
It's true that no one is perfect, but if you tell me I should forgive a torture-killer or child abuser, NO, I will not.
There are degrees of evil.
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8 months ago - Monday 1/22/18 - 5:13:10 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 4/24/17 - 2:43:26 PM cszulins wrote:
No. And there have been so many famous cases where we all knew they were guilty. |
Unless you're sitting there and have access to all the data, you still have an opinion based on incomplete evidence. Gut feelings don't work well with justice. |
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Avery
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7 months ago - Sunday 3/4/18 - 12:31:48 PM EST (GMT-5)
Well, they declared Lizzie Borden innocent, but she was guilty
in the court of public opinion. If public opinion had decided
she was innocent, she wouldn't have been shunned.
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6 months ago - Thursday 3/22/18 - 12:51:47 AM EST (GMT-5)
OJ Simpson ruined my faith in the innocence of the "not guilty."
But, I'm glad guilt really has to be proven.
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6 months ago - Sunday 3/25/18 - 11:42:52 PM EST (GMT-5)
Ha ha ha
Yeah right.
Casey Anthony
What is really frustrating is when people who are obviously guilty get off because of lack of evidence or some other legal BS that gets in the way. Real justice is a joke.
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6 months ago - Sunday 3/25/18 - 11:58:33 PM EST (GMT-5)
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6 months ago - Monday 3/26/18 - 12:11:29 AM EST (GMT-5)
I didn't really mean "lack of evidence" as much as I meant when they won't allow it to be submitted. What is the word for it? I'll have to ask DH when he gets home.
I just hate legal loopholes that allow the true criminals to run free when they are obviously guilty. Like Casey Anthony, who would have hurt feelings if they actually gave her what she deserved? Anyone?
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6 months ago - Monday 3/26/18 - 12:15:36 AM EST (GMT-5)
Yeah, there are rules of evidence that govern whether or not it can be submitted. They're sort of a basic principle of our legal system. Calling that a "loophole" or insisting that evidence should have been admitted because you "just know someone is obviously guilty" is...I mean just wow.
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6 months ago - Monday 3/26/18 - 12:18:05 AM EST (GMT-5)
Well help me out...what is that word I am looking for. When evidence cannot be submitted because of a technical issue? But the evidence is there and concrete.
I've watched too many true crime shows.
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6 months ago - Monday 3/26/18 - 12:18:52 AM EST (GMT-5)
I think the technical phrase for that is "you've watched too many crime shows."
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6 months ago - Monday 3/26/18 - 12:20:41 AM EST (GMT-5)
No. Seriously, there is a word when evidence cannot be submitted due to a techinical issue. Or when some goofball makes a mistake on collecting evidence, etc.
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