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4,715 hits 4.0 (1 vote) Share Favorite | Flag 4 years ago by redreine

Are "lying" and "omitting the truth" the same thing?


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4 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Wednesday 6/2/10 - 10:05:37 PM EST (GMT-5)
I chose no.

While they are similar, they aren't *exactly* the same. They are, however, equally as sh*tty, imho.
4 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Wednesday 6/2/10 - 10:41:05 PM EST (GMT-5)
I think lying is intentionally saying something that is false in order to deceive someone a certain way, whereas omitting the truth could be accidental. Omitting the truth may also be purposefully deceptive, but it is through the absence of saying something, not through asserting a false statement.

They both can have similar effects, though.
4 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Wednesday 6/2/10 - 11:02:56 PM EST (GMT-5)
My Gypsy grandmother (actually a great-aunt) used to say that the best lies were those made of true statements.
4 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Thursday 6/3/10 - 12:01:53 AM EST (GMT-5)
Depends on how you omit it. It can be.
4 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Thursday 6/3/10 - 12:08:11 AM EST (GMT-5)
If you are lying then you are omitting the truth. If you are omitting the truth, then you are either lying or withholding information. In that case there is a difference.
4 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Thursday 6/3/10 - 12:32:01 AM EST (GMT-5)
They are alike in wrongness but they aren't the same in any way.
4 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Thursday 6/3/10 - 1:37:08 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 6/2/10 - 10:41:05 PM BlackBird77 wrote:
I think lying is intentionally saying something that is false in order to deceive someone a certain way, whereas omitting the truth could be accidental. Omitting the truth may also be purposefully deceptive, but it is through the absence of saying something, not through asserting a false statement. They both can have similar effects, though.


This is what I was thinking too.
4 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Thursday 6/3/10 - 1:49:23 AM EST (GMT-5)
If the intention is to deceive or to lead someone to behave or think in a certain way, then I think they are; it's manipulation of the facts in order to create a certain reality.
4 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Thursday 6/3/10 - 2:43:35 AM EST (GMT-5)
No. Lying creates a false 'truth' while omitting the truth simply leaves it unsaid. Serves the same purpose in most cases, but still not the same thing
4 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Thursday 6/3/10 - 9:42:45 AM EST (GMT-5)
it's not the same...but omitting details is just as bad as a lie
4 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Thursday 6/3/10 - 12:14:25 PM EST (GMT-5)
Yes. There are nuances, but as both lying and omitting the truth are motivated by the desire to get away with something, I'm not inclined to aid that cause by saying, "No."
There are circumstances when lying is acceptable, and similarly, there are circumstances - - probably more, actually - - where people are not responsible for divulging everything they know, but if you know it and there is reason to provide an answer, lying vs withholding the truth is splitting hairs. They are more similar than they are different.
4 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Thursday 6/3/10 - 3:30:20 PM EST (GMT-5)
Not quite, but almost.
They could be the same in certain contexts.
4 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Thursday 6/3/10 - 11:39:32 PM EST (GMT-5)
No, but both are done to deliberately mislead people. They serve the same purpose, but they are not the same thing.
4 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Friday 6/4/10 - 7:58:39 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Thursday 6/3/10 - 3:30:20 PM Koto wrote:
Not quite, but almost. They could be the same in certain contexts.

On Thursday 6/3/10 - 11:39:32 PM 96_Relic_96 wrote:
No, but both are done to deliberately mislead people. They serve the same purpose, but they are not the same thing.

This is semantics, but for me, while they can technically be defined differently, the emphasis is that for all intents and purposes, they *are* the same thing.
4 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Saturday 6/5/10 - 3:06:03 AM EST (GMT-5)
yes they are. Absolutely. Omitting means it is a conscious act.

F*ck that.
4 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Saturday 6/5/10 - 1:40:37 PM EST (GMT-5)
Sometimes it can be the same. When I was seriously ill six years ago, the doctors at the hospital refused to tell me that my chances of survival was about 1 in 8.
If they had told me the truth - that I was likely to die - I would have spent more time with my daughter and my friends.

Luckily, the diagnosis was wrong, but the docs lied to me because they didn't tell me my odds.
So it can be the same.
4 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Sunday 6/6/10 - 9:42:19 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Thursday 6/3/10 - 11:39:32 PM 96_Relic_96 wrote:
No, but both are done to deliberately mislead people. They serve the same purpose, but they are not the same thing.


Agreed.
4 yrs ago, 6 mos ago - Monday 6/14/10 - 9:27:17 AM EST (GMT-5)
I guess there's a very fine line. Maybe it's a *type* of lie. Could it be along the lines of "little white lie?" Because there's that and then there's blatant lies. But then I would say that if you make an untrue statement no matter how serious or not the situation, it's a blatant lie. Like if I were to tell you that it's sunny in Buffalo today. Not true.
4 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 7/15/10 - 5:45:37 PM EST (GMT-5)
When it comes down to it the person will probably be just as equally mad at both I think, but lieing is worse ofcourse



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