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Banana_gurl
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Saturday 10/10/09 - 7:58:15 PM
I know someone who took those and It made their depression worse |
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calfhill
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Saturday 10/10/09 - 10:44:54 PM
On Saturday 10/10/09 - 7:58:15 PM Banana_gurl wrote:
I know someone who took those and It made their depression worse |
It's interesting that the commercials for these drugs almost always list side effects that include "... thoughts of suicide..." Maybe long term depression should be treated by finding the source of the depression. |
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im_special
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Sunday 10/11/09 - 12:56:59 AM
I dont think theres ever a need for anti-depressants. Certainly not just after 3 weeks. But I dont care if people want to take them. Its your life, your body, f*ck it up however you want to. |
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Sunday 10/11/09 - 3:41:28 AM
Bad doctor. |
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Sunday 10/11/09 - 3:45:13 AM
Clinically you have to have *insert several symptoms* for AT LEAST 3-5 weeks for it to be declared depression in the first place.
You couldn't make a judgement on whether she needs medication or not with so little information. |
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Sunday 10/11/09 - 10:40:52 AM
On Sunday 10/11/09 - 12:56:59 AM im_special wrote:
I dont think theres ever a need for anti-depressants. Certainly not just after 3 weeks. But I dont care if people want to take them. Its your life, your body, f*ck it up however you want to. |
So how exactly would you treat clinical depression?
I'm rather sure that if I hadn't been on antidepressants, I would have been a bit dead by now. |
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Mispelled
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Sunday 10/11/09 - 11:15:51 AM
Only if there's no reason for the depression. Hell, I've been depressed for over 3 weeks and it's because my life has sucked. I don't need a pill for that, I need time.
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Sunday 10/11/09 - 11:19:30 AM
I don't think they should be without proper psychological assessment. And, ideally, initial anti-depressants would be prescribed as immediate short-term crisis relief as part of a longer term strategy for dealing with mental health issues, rather than just drugs alone. |
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Sunday 10/11/09 - 11:21:05 AM
that's something I would probably defer to a psychiatrist about. Personally I'm not particularly qualified to give mental health advice. |
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Sunday 10/11/09 - 11:34:59 AM
I think they should see a psychiatrist. And if the only thing the psychiatrist prescribes is anti-depressants, they should go see another psychiatrist. Until they find one who is not so lazy as to not combine pills with proper therapy. |
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Mispelled
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Sunday 10/11/09 - 11:37:21 AM
Pills can help if you're depressed for no good reason. That happened to me; I took antidepressants for a while, and my brain corrected.
Now, if something terrible happened, or your friend is coping with real problems, therapy would be better. |
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Sunday 10/11/09 - 11:41:39 AM
The thing is, you might have a reason and not even know about it. *Just* prescribing pills won't fix that.
I'm not advocating against pills in general, just the sole application of pills without any meaningful probing.
This seems to be a trend in North American healthcare in general.
I once went to the doctor with a fever and cough, they gave me antibiotics and sent me home. I went to another doctor two days later, they actually bothered to send me for X-Ray and discovered I have severe pneumonia.
I dislike quick fixes, |
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Sunday 10/11/09 - 1:51:04 PM
There are too many factors to answer that, mainly if the depression is related to something in their life or if it's a chemical imbalance. Medication can only fix the latter. |
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Sunday 10/11/09 - 2:04:03 PM
"mainly if the depression is related to something in their life or if it's a chemical imbalance."
Or both, considering there is no real concensus on whether chemical imbalances cause depression or the other way around, or they are simply comorbid. |
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Sunday 10/11/09 - 2:05:06 PM
not to mention the definition of 'depressed' in use here |
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mer_359
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Monday 10/12/09 - 11:21:02 AM
no..i don't trust anti-depression medications.
my doctor diagnosed me as clinically depressed and tried to pump me full of drugs. i told her no thanks, and worked out my own problems...its all in your head |
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Monday 10/12/09 - 11:30:53 AM
On Monday 10/12/09 - 11:21:02 AM mer_359 wrote:
no...its all in your head |
Also wrong. Just because yours may have been does not make it true for everybody. |
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k248
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Monday 10/12/09 - 8:38:28 PM
If there's a strong family history of it or personal history, it might be useful |
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Holy_Crapoli
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Monday 10/12/09 - 9:03:16 PM
Tell that p*ssy to get over it.
You know what happened to people who cried all the time in the good ol' days?
They were lobotomized. |
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Monday 10/12/09 - 9:10:30 PM
On Monday 10/12/09 - 9:03:16 PM Holy_Crapoli wrote:
Tell that p*ssy to get over it. You know what happened to people who cried all the time in the good ol' days? They were lobotomized. |
Your trolling used to be far more subtle. |
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Holy_Crapoli
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Monday 10/12/09 - 10:06:43 PM
While my opinion isn't as extreme as that, I really don't see how someone being sad for 3 weeks indicates any proof of treatment-worthy depression.
They're probably just overreacting... like most people who cry "mental disorder". |
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Monday 10/12/09 - 11:03:05 PM
On Monday 10/12/09 - 10:06:43 PM Holy_Crapoli wrote:
While my opinion isn't as extreme as that, I really don't see how someone being sad for 3 weeks indicates any proof of treatment-worthy depression. . |
Maybe they were diagnosed |
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aldod
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Tuesday 10/13/09 - 1:05:47 AM
Not necessarily.
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Tuesday 10/13/09 - 1:06:53 AM
I think 3 weeks isn't enough to know what condition someone has.
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chikoori
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Western US
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Tuesday 10/13/09 - 2:40:47 AM
No. The use of SSRIs (the most commonly used anti depressants these days) is based on nothing more than correlational data. There is no evidence to say that depression is caused by a lack of serotonin, or that a lack of serotonin is caused by depression, or even that both aren't caused by something else entirely.
Really, they work about as well as placebos, only placebos don't have any nasty side effects.
Either way, to suggest that someone needs medication merely because they've been feeling down for a few weeks seems rather ludicrous. |
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