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Do you believe that prejudice against Atheists is a problem?
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Above link notes some cases of discrimination against Atheists. These are by no means the only documented cases.


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14 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Saturday 1/27/07 - 1:49:07 PM EST (GMT-5)
No, to me it seems the opposite. I never see Christians getting mad at atheists for their beliefs or making fun of them for not believing, but I see the opposite of that all the time. Not in my own life; I don't think I have an atheist friends at all, I'm pretty sure everyone I know reasonably well is a Christian, Jew or Muslim. But online I see lots of atheists and they only want to attack and ridicule people with faith. It makes me wonder if they are attacking the small part inside of them that still wonders if God is possible?
14 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Saturday 1/27/07 - 1:56:03 PM EST (GMT-5)
Very much so. Kiki has perfectly demonstrated how. At the same time as lauding her own virtues and the greatness of faith, she similarly dismisses all atheists and pigeonholes them with a blanket statement that is patronising, incorrect and slightly crazy. That sort of generalisation is the very essence of prejudice.

'I don't know any atheists, but from what I can see they're all bitter and mean' is what I got from that. Sounds like prejudice to me.

14 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Saturday 1/27/07 - 2:00:30 PM EST (GMT-5)
I believe any prejudice is a problem. I'm not sure how wide-spread this particular issue is, though.
14 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Saturday 1/27/07 - 2:09:22 PM EST (GMT-5)
Not a problem.

To be honest if you are an atheist you must live a very boring and not a very full filling life.

I'm not saying all of them are like this, but most of them that I've seen on the internet go on a huge rampage about "proving gods existence" why bother?

I mean it's what they believe nothing is going to change their mind, not even a mouthy little git off the internet. SO I don't see why they have to have a go.

14 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Saturday 1/27/07 - 2:12:41 PM EST (GMT-5)
again, 'it's not a problem, however I am prejucided'
14 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Saturday 1/27/07 - 2:12:45 PM EST (GMT-5)
Why would the life of an atheist be any less fulfilling?
14 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Saturday 1/27/07 - 2:52:13 PM EST (GMT-5)
I don't think it's a major problem in the UK, i believe it works the other way in most cases
14 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Saturday 1/27/07 - 3:27:39 PM EST (GMT-5)
I don't think it's a big problem. In my experience, those with faith seem to be more tolerant of differences in belief than those without.
14 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Saturday 1/27/07 - 3:44:18 PM EST (GMT-5)
"Do you believe that prejudice against Atheists is a problem?"

Yes. I do.

But I'm not answering it thus because I'm an atheist who's been prejudiced. I'm answering thus because prejudice against ANYONE is a problem.

For example:

Men only private members clubs are a problem.
Adoption agencies refusing to consider gay couples are a problem.
'No blacks' signs in hotel windows are a problem.
American soldiers wearing, "Eat Pork or Die" T-shirts in Iraq are a problem.

This list could be almost endless, I think you get my point, prejudice is the problem.

14 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Saturday 1/27/07 - 3:46:10 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 1/27/2007 3:27:40 PM chikoori wrote:
I don't think it's a big problem. In my experience, those with faith seem to be more tolerant of differences in belief than those without.

Are you trying to be funny?

Or are you really so stupid that you think that atheists/agnostics/non-religious people cannot be tolerant?

14 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Saturday 1/27/07 - 3:51:32 PM EST (GMT-5)
Indeed, Dave. I was about to ask why prejudice against atheists was any better than prejudice against Christians or any other group of people.

Just because it's not as widespread doesn't mean it's not a problem.

Incidentally, I got the inspiration for this question from Richard Dawkins' book "The God Delusion" which I am in the middle of reading, and I've seen you quote him a few times, dave.

14 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Saturday 1/27/07 - 3:57:56 PM EST (GMT-5)
More like prejudice against believers.
14 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Saturday 1/27/07 - 4:01:42 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 1/27/2007 3:51:32 PM ongooshk wrote:
Incidentally, I got the inspiration for this question from Richard Dawkins' book "The God Delusion" which I am in the middle of reading, and I've seen you quote him a few times, dave.

A good read, but a little hostile even for my taste...

And I think theists are a right bunch of c*nts!

14 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Saturday 1/27/07 - 4:01:51 PM EST (GMT-5)
Prejudice against any group is a problem, but I do think that the prejudice most atheists face is nothing substantial.

On 1/27/2007 3:46:10 PM davew wrote:
Or are you really so stupid that you think that atheists/agnostics/non-religious people cannot be tolerant?

If you'd be so kind as to point out where she suggested *anything* like that, I'd really appreciate it.

14 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Saturday 1/27/07 - 4:03:54 PM EST (GMT-5)
"a little hostile"

I've picked that up as well. He doesn't mince words anyway.

14 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Saturday 1/27/07 - 4:04:23 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 1/27/2007 4:01:52 PM melLowStar wrote:
If you'd be so kind as to point out where she suggested *anything* like that, I'd really appreciate it.

My comment was in response to chikoori, not you.
14 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Saturday 1/27/07 - 4:05:46 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 1/27/2007 4:01:42 PM davew wrote:
And I think theists are a right bunch of c*nts!

You really must have quite an impressive body of knowledge about ALL the theistic religions to be able to label ALL their followers "c-nts".

It seems as though you're just taking your negative experiences with Christianity and applying them to theistic religions in general.

14 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Saturday 1/27/07 - 4:08:17 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 1/27/2007 4:04:23 PM davew wrote:
My comment was in response to chikoori, not you.

I know who you were talking to; I never suggested that you were speaking to me.

I simply asked you to explain why you think her statement implies that she believes "atheists/agnostics/non-religious people cannot be tolerant".

The fact that she thinks theists are more tolerant than atheists doesn't indicate that she finds atheists completely intolerant at all.

14 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Saturday 1/27/07 - 4:09:01 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 1/27/2007 4:05:47 PM melLowStar wrote:
You really must have quite an impressive body of knowledge about ALL the theistic religions to be able to label ALL their followers "c-nts". It seems as though you're just taking your negative experiences with Christianity and applying them to theistic religions in general.

I think it may be too late to have your humour bypass reversed.

No, all theistic religions are WRONG. That is a fact. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves and more worryingly may be fooling others.

My 'c*nts' comment was humour. Read in context to my comment about Dawkins it is obviously humour.

Don't like that? Tough, GFY!

14 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Saturday 1/27/07 - 4:10:01 PM EST (GMT-5)
Everyone loves being a martyr :rollseyes:
14 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Saturday 1/27/07 - 4:10:28 PM EST (GMT-5)
I think that prejudice against Atheists is a problem
14 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Saturday 1/27/07 - 4:11:21 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 1/27/2007 2:09:22 PM zz_Amy_zz wrote:
To be honest if you are an atheist you must live a very boring and not a very full filling life.

I can't believe someone could say that. Do you think that as an atheist, a person would want to waste his/her life, knowing that there won't be an afterlife? Mabye a stupid atheist, but not someone who has analyzed and criticized it philosophically - i.e. someone who would defend it...on the internet...

14 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Saturday 1/27/07 - 4:11:27 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 1/27/2007 4:08:18 PM melLowStar wrote:
The fact that she thinks theists are more tolerant than atheists doesn't indicate that she finds atheists completely intolerant at all.

Oh, FFS we are touchy aren't we?

On 1/27/2007 3:27:40 PM chikoori wrote:
I don't think it's a big problem. In my experience, those with faith seem to be more tolerant of differences in belief than those without.

Are you trying to be funny?

Or are you really so stupid that you think that atheists/agnostics/non-religious people cannot be as tolerant as theists?

Happy now? Grumpy bitch.

14 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Saturday 1/27/07 - 4:18:36 PM EST (GMT-5)
Bullsh-t.

I see an equal amount of both, to be honest.

It irritates me more with atheists sometimes, though, because they think that what they're doing is "right" and can get away with it. Just because the religious freaks do the same thing doesn't mean that turning around and doing the same exact thing doesn't make it right, either. That's what hypocrisy is, and hypocrisy doesn't validate your belief.

Until it's proven that there is or if there is not a god, belief is OK. There's no need to place yourself on a moral pedestal of it.

No religion (or non-religion) has the right to point the finger until then.

14 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Saturday 1/27/07 - 4:19:49 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 1/27/2007 4:09:01 PM davew wrote:
I think it may be too late to have your humour bypass reversed.


Well, I DO often fail to see the humor in things that simply aren't funny, but I think the fact that I didn't interpret your comment as a joke says more about your personality than my sense of humor.

On 1/27/2007 4:09:01 PM davew wrote:
No, all theistic religions are WRONG. That is a fact.

...and at this very moment, there is NOT an alien spaceship orbitting a planet in a distant galaxy. Anyone who disagrees is WRONG.
This is a fact.
I have no proof with which to support my claims, but it's a fact, simply because I declare it so.

On 1/27/2007 4:09:01 PM davew wrote:
GFY!

Ffs, no, tbh.


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