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3,549 hits 3.0 (4 votes) Share Favorite | Flag 8 years ago by glennh70

Do you think Scotland should separate from the UK?
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8 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Sunday 9/4/11 - 3:41:26 PM EST (GMT-5)
noooooo!
8 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Sunday 9/4/11 - 10:55:29 PM EST (GMT-5)
I'm not sure it matters to me.
8 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Monday 9/5/11 - 9:28:59 AM EST (GMT-5)
My instinct is to say yes, we're all grown up now and can take care of ourselves, however...

If Scotland were to become independent, there's no guarantee we'd remain part of the EU or if we'd be given the same status in the EU that we currently enjoy as part of the UK.

Being in the EU is massively beneficial to the UK as a whole and certainly to Scotland, losing our place would more than it's worth.
8 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Monday 9/5/11 - 10:39:03 AM EST (GMT-5)
The problem with independence for Scotland at the moment is a financial one. Breaking from the Union now has the potential to make life pretty hard for the ordinary Scot- there wouldn't be the finances there to keep the public services that they're used to. Until the SNP can come up with a workable and sustainable economic model, I am against it.

But, it is up to the Scottish people to decide if it's right for them to become a sovereign state. If the majority of them are willing to forgo the perks of being part of the UK and the EU for independence, they should have the full support of Westminster to do it.
8 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Monday 9/5/11 - 10:50:13 AM EST (GMT-5)
Alba gu brĂ th!
8 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Monday 9/5/11 - 3:00:53 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 9/5/11 - 9:28:59 AM Guilty_Spark wrote:
My instinct is to say yes, we're all grown up now and can take care of ourselves, however... If Scotland were to become independent, there's no guarantee we'd remain part of the EU or if we'd be given the same status in the EU that we currently enjoy as part of the UK. Being in the EU is massively beneficial to the UK as a whole and certainly to Scotland, losing our place would more than it's worth.


AND WE GET MONEY FROM ENGLAND, AND IF WE SEPERATED WE WOULD BE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY, I HATE HOW PEOPLE ARE LIKE 'OH GET US AWAY FROM THESE ENGLISH' WELL ACTUALLY GET AWAY YOURSELF CAUSE ENGLAND GIVE US MONEY FOR THINGS MOST OF THE TIME. :)

so when you have less money than you have now, Mr ned who lives in a council house, have fun with that.

THAT WAS NOT AIMED AT YOU GUILTY SPARK!
It was aimed at others :)
8 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Monday 9/5/11 - 4:19:11 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 9/5/11 - 3:00:53 PM Alycat_23 wrote:
AND WE GET MONEY FROM ENGLAND,


Ok young lady, let's just burn this myth to the ground RIGHT f**king now.

You're probably too young to remember, but a few years ago some economists at a university in Glasgow decided to check whether or not was true that Scotland was being subsidised by the rest of the UK.

After they'd done all the maths, it turned out that only was Scotland not being subsidised, but that bring in more revenue to the UK treasury than we take under the Barnett Formula.

The notion that we'd suddenly be a nation of paupers is nothing more than a myth.
8 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Monday 9/5/11 - 4:24:56 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Sunday 9/4/11 - 10:55:29 PM anthraxrocks wrote:
I'm not sure it matters to me.

I'm quite sure it doesn't matter to me on a personal level. If there was a compelling reason, I could sympathize one way or the other, but it's kind of none of my business.
8 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Monday 9/5/11 - 4:25:04 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 9/5/11 - 3:00:53 PM Alycat_23 wrote:
AND WE GET MONEY FROM ENGLAND,
On Monday 9/5/11 - 4:19:11 PM Guilty_Spark wrote:
Ok young lady, let's just burn this myth to the ground RIGHT f**king now. You're probably too young to remember, but a few years ago some economists at a university in Glasgow decided to check whether or not was true that Scotland was being subsidised by the rest of the UK. After they'd done all the maths, it turned out that only was Scotland not being subsidised, but that bring in more revenue to the UK treasury than we take under the Barnett Formula. The notion that we'd suddenly be a nation of paupers is nothing more than a myth.


ok, ok. Still, I think we would become poor.

We will, and Im planning on being rich :L

so thts not going to work out for me :L

which, is shallow, but ..still
8 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Monday 9/5/11 - 4:36:03 PM EST (GMT-5)
I'm no better. I've been pro independence since I was old enough to understand what independence was, but ever since the question of our place in the EU came up, suddenly it's a different matter.

Mainly because LiJas is from the EU and I like that we can live in each other's countries without visas or restrictions.
8 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Monday 9/5/11 - 4:38:59 PM EST (GMT-5)
why would you lose EU status?
8 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Monday 9/5/11 - 4:42:52 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 9/5/11 - 4:38:59 PM glennh70 wrote:
why would you lose EU status?


Because we would become an independent nation, there's no law that says we would remain in the EU.

In fact, there is no precedent for this in EU history, so we'd very much be in unchartered waters.
8 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Monday 9/5/11 - 5:16:30 PM EST (GMT-5)
^^^ I suspect Scottland and the EU would have discussions and an agreement about this issue before any seperation occurred.
8 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Monday 9/5/11 - 5:23:52 PM EST (GMT-5)
Possibly, but the uncertainty worries me.
7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Saturday 7/21/12 - 3:07:36 AM EST (GMT-5)
I think that every country should separate from each other and that we should also all live as marauding, raiding, nomads that live on pillaging, fighting and hunting in the ruins of abandoned society
7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Saturday 7/21/12 - 1:00:24 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Saturday 7/21/12 - 3:07:36 AM area51dude wrote:
I think that every country should separate from each other and that we should also all live as marauding, raiding, nomads that live on pillaging, fighting and hunting in the ruins of abandoned society


So when it says under your name 'Male, 18-29' it's referring to your IQ rather than your age.

Got it.
7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Saturday 7/21/12 - 1:14:24 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Saturday 7/21/12 - 3:07:36 AM area51dude wrote:
I think that every country should separate from each other and that we should also all live as marauding, raiding, nomads that live on pillaging, fighting and hunting in the ruins of abandoned society
On Saturday 7/21/12 - 1:00:24 PM Guilty_Spark wrote:
So when it says under your name 'Male, 18-29' it's referring to your IQ rather than your age. Got it.

So being Scottish, I presume you eat a Scottish diet and the 30 - 39 is your BMI?

7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Saturday 7/21/12 - 1:33:37 PM EST (GMT-5)
Damn right. If you can't deep fry it, we won't eat it!



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