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3,772 hits Rate me! Share Favorite | Flag 18 years ago by buddy

Do you think the states should be allowed to classify a fetus as an ``unborn child``?


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18 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 2/13/02 - 3:59:54 PM EST (GMT-5)
Potential is nothing. All that matters is what happens to potential. And god has nothing to do with whether or not a fetus is conceived. That's just one of the many holier-than-thou excuses that you people use.
18 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 2/13/02 - 4:00:23 PM EST (GMT-5)
There's a little thing called rape, bella, that God can't control.
18 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 2/13/02 - 4:04:07 PM EST (GMT-5)
Or no one, for that matter. A fetus, or an "unborn child," is the control of the mother who is carrying it and no one elses. No one has the right to take that control away from her. A mother has full control over her body, which INCLUDES the fetus. She also has control on whether to let it live or kill it. By allowing women to have a choice on whether to kill their unborn child or not, they essentially have more control over their body and their mind. Abortion is a choice. Take it or leave it.
18 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 2/13/02 - 4:33:10 PM EST (GMT-5)
The question doesn't mean, "what term should be used", it means, "do pro-life idiots have the right to control what other people do with their bodies".
18 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 2/13/02 - 5:58:31 PM EST (GMT-5)
my opinion is, that as soon as an egg forms, the baby is alive. so yes, i think the stats should consider a fetus and unborn child. .......Pro-Life
18 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 2/13/02 - 6:01:20 PM EST (GMT-5)
people who choose to be pro-life are not idiots. i agree people have the right to choose whether or not they want to take their childs life, and yeah whatever they want to do go ahead (but i dont reccommend it, i think its seriously wrong), but im not for killing babies. thats just how i am.
18 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 2/13/02 - 6:04:15 PM EST (GMT-5)
Abortion doesn't kill babies. That's where you're wrong and where you're forcing your opinions on everyone else.
18 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 2/13/02 - 6:05:58 PM EST (GMT-5)
Should the eggs of endangered birds and reptiles be protected? By law they are. Let's at least be consistent.
18 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 2/13/02 - 6:12:06 PM EST (GMT-5)
Eggs aren't baby birds or reptiles either. They are simply trying to preserve the species by allowing the eggs to hatch and BECOME animals. Human beings are far from being endangered, so I don't see what your point about consistancy is.
18 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 2/13/02 - 6:16:05 PM EST (GMT-5)
According to your earlier definition those eggs are alive. They aren't dependent on anything for their survival. They aren't acting parasitically on any mother. Actually, you mess with ANY wild animal eggs and get caught and you are looking at some hefty penalties. I might have missed it, but I did give the characteristics of life according to biology texts and a fetus seems to meet them all. So does an egg. That's what I mean by consistency
18 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 2/13/02 - 6:19:46 PM EST (GMT-5)
My freshman biology textbook told me that mules weren't alive. I don't trust textbooks. I didn't make the laws about wild animal eggs, and I don't agree with most of them. Eggs are not alive. The thing that grows inside the egg is dependant on the nutrients that the mother left in the egg to survive. Until it is hatched, the thing inside the egg is even less alive than a human fetus.
18 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 2/13/02 - 6:19:49 PM EST (GMT-5)
no, you take one of your cells off, it's a cell. A building block of life. At each level of structure there are emergent properties....discrete things that weren't at the lower level of organization. For instance, 4 wheels, 2 axles and a piece of wood scattered about are the same thing materially as a cart made from the above pieces, but the cart has an emergent property of ease of motion. Each level of organization from atoms to the biosphere has such emergent properties. Cells are the smallest things that CAN be alive, but not all cells are distinctly and independently alive.
18 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 2/13/02 - 6:20:44 PM EST (GMT-5)
to me its is not an unborn child until it can survive on its own. women should have the right to do what they want with their own bodies. this to me is a womens issue not mens. they feel it move, create it and give birth to it and thats the easy part. then you raise it. i personally could never do it, i have 5 kids. but never would i look down on other women who do.
18 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 2/13/02 - 6:21:32 PM EST (GMT-5)
What your textbook was saying, rufio, was PROBABLY that since mules could not reproduce (they are all sterile except for one recorded mutant) then by not fulfilling the characteristics of 'life' it was not alive. Only in the biological sense of genetics. I didn't read it, but I would be willing to bet that's what they meant. They were probably trying to make one of those catchy phrases to get students to read carefully. That's a bad sentence, but I can understand what they were trying to say.
18 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 2/13/02 - 6:23:34 PM EST (GMT-5)
icechick, can you put any substance you want in your body in any amount and then drive a car? Can you take a part of your body and slam it into someone else at random causing injury? There are tons of laws on the books that tell you what you can and can't do with your body. Science is not sure exactly when life begins..that's an old debate, but if there is any doubt, why take the chance?
18 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 2/13/02 - 6:25:36 PM EST (GMT-5)
Yeah, probably, but that was the point when I decided that science couldn't define life and developed my own ideas. It's the crowning moment, you know? It would have been a lot less bogus if my biology teacher hadn't seconded it.
18 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 2/13/02 - 6:26:14 PM EST (GMT-5)
If he seconded it without explaining it, that was bogus.
18 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 2/13/02 - 6:27:10 PM EST (GMT-5)
Fenris, by having an abortion you are not harming anyone else. The government has no right to tell you not to do something if it doesn't harm anyone else.
18 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 2/13/02 - 6:29:10 PM EST (GMT-5)
fenris its obvious your male! women have the right to do what they want with their own bodies and men should leave it alone
18 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 2/13/02 - 6:31:37 PM EST (GMT-5)
if we did that, there wouldn't be any more women Women are wonderful creatures, and I married a great one. If it were just your body, I would tend to agree, but I just don't think it is. This is an old debate that you nor I will settle tonight. And as I believe I hear that special woman I love bestest of all pulling in the drive, I bid you goodnight.
18 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 2/13/02 - 6:31:40 PM EST (GMT-5)
Icechick, there are plenty of females who think abortion is wrong, too. Scary, I know.
18 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 2/13/02 - 6:32:38 PM EST (GMT-5)
She did explain it. She explained that since mules can't reproduce, they aren't alive, because that's what the book said.

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