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3,661 hits Rate me! Share Favorite | Flag 17 years ago by buddy

Do you think the states should be allowed to classify a fetus as an ``unborn child``?


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17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/7/02 - 5:43:27 PM EST (GMT-5)
eh who cares?
17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/7/02 - 5:44:40 PM EST (GMT-5)
They already do. If a pregnant woman is killed by a drunk driver, the drunk driver is charged with two murders. Fetuses are, indeed, unborn children and should be classified as such.
17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/7/02 - 5:45:00 PM EST (GMT-5)
What's the difference? Either way, it's not alive.
17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/7/02 - 5:45:33 PM EST (GMT-5)
Sure it is.
17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/7/02 - 5:46:09 PM EST (GMT-5)
It's alive when it's born.
17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/7/02 - 5:47:53 PM EST (GMT-5)
It's alive at conception.
17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/7/02 - 5:54:04 PM EST (GMT-5)
pishma's right. they are alive...but i believe that everything in our bodies are alive.
17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/7/02 - 5:54:10 PM EST (GMT-5)
Rufio, there's no doubt that it's ALIVE. The question is if a fetus is a human that deserves human rights. Clearly, a fetus is alive.
17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/7/02 - 5:57:16 PM EST (GMT-5)
the only thing i'm really against are partial birth abortions and third trimester abortions. i think that as long as you've come that far into the pregnancy, you might as well give birth and give the unwanted child up for adoption. this is a very touchy issue though.
17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/7/02 - 5:57:35 PM EST (GMT-5)
Correction, either way it is alive.
17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/7/02 - 5:58:03 PM EST (GMT-5)
It may be alive in a very technical sense, the way an organ is alive. But it is not a separate entity, and it cannot survive on its own. It is not a human being anymore than your liver is a human being.
17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/7/02 - 5:59:38 PM EST (GMT-5)
A one year old cannot survive on its own. Is it not human?
17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/7/02 - 6:02:38 PM EST (GMT-5)
A fetus, if taken from its womb, cannot survive period. A baby can survive separately from its mother, albeit with help. It doesn't need to feed directly off of a human being all the time, as a fetus does.
17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/7/02 - 6:03:48 PM EST (GMT-5)
You're saying that if I left a one year old in its crib, it could survive on its own? Perhaps scavenge for food after it learns to crawl?
17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/7/02 - 6:05:48 PM EST (GMT-5)
Well, besides the fact that it DOES have an overruling survival instinct, no, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that it doesn't have to actually be a part of the mother to survive, and doesn't have to be a parasite.
17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/7/02 - 6:06:45 PM EST (GMT-5)
Well, it all depends on how you define a fetus. Babies who have only been in the womb for 4 months have survived to become healthy people but, yes, they did have to be on life support for a while and it took some medical technology. Do you stop calling it a fetus after 3 months and change to calling it an unborn baby at that point? I think that's a reasonable way to classify.
17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/7/02 - 6:08:07 PM EST (GMT-5)
So born babies want to survive, but unborn babies would not fight to survive and, therefore, do not have the right. If a fetus requires nursing and care from its mother, what is exactly does a one year old require that's any different?
17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/7/02 - 6:09:22 PM EST (GMT-5)
So, buddy, 4-month old fetuses that existed before there was medical technology necessary for them to survive were still fetuses, right? I don't think it should be based on whether or not medical technology can help the fetus live. Medical technology these days could probably inspire life into a rock.
17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/7/02 - 6:09:54 PM EST (GMT-5)
Sooner or later, they will be able to take a fetus out very early and through medical technology nurse it along to becoming a healthy baby. When we have that technology to take the fetus out from almost the date of conception and have it survive, the issue will change somewhat.
17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/7/02 - 6:12:32 PM EST (GMT-5)
A fetus is a parasite. It feeds like a parasite, and survives like a parasite. A born baby may need the mother's natural help to survive, but not as a parasite. It has its own fully-formed body, its own mind, and its own free will.
17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/7/02 - 6:12:41 PM EST (GMT-5)
Well, you can't discount technology. Think about all the mothers and babies that would have died if not for caesarian insection.
17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/7/02 - 6:13:34 PM EST (GMT-5)
Yeah, we can make test tube babies, too, buddy. They're still not alive until they're completely formed.

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