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61,515 hits 4.0 (1 vote) Share Favorite | Flag 3 mos ago by chips2001

Are mass shootings an acceptable by-product of the right to bear arms?


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3 months ago - Sunday 8/25/19 - 4:18:08 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Sunday 8/25/19 - 4:13:57 PM amaqdrinker wrote:
You just won’t get my vote if you think legislation is the solution to complex problems. That’s all I’m saying.


What a galaxy-brain take this is.

You are insufferable.
3 months ago - Sunday 8/25/19 - 4:24:40 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Sunday 8/25/19 - 4:13:57 PM amaqdrinker wrote:
You just won’t get my vote if you think legislation is the solution to complex problems. That’s all I’m saying.
On Sunday 8/25/19 - 4:18:08 PM birdsong4j wrote:
What a galaxy-brain take this is. You are insufferable.


You seem to have no qualms with political strong arming.

I’m out and about now. Have a nice day fellow citizen.
3 months ago - Sunday 8/25/19 - 4:27:10 PM EST (GMT-5)
"If you believe in legislation to solve problems, you are endorsing 'political strong-arming'" is one of the more ridiculous claims you've ever made.
3 months ago - Sunday 8/25/19 - 4:50:34 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Sunday 8/25/19 - 4:27:10 PM birdsong4j wrote:
"If you believe in legislation to solve problems, you are endorsing 'political strong-arming"' is one of the more ridiculous claims you've ever made.


No that’s a valid position to hold.

I don’t subscribe to it.

You calling me insufferable for being jaded about politics is the strong arming.
3 months ago - Sunday 8/25/19 - 4:53:52 PM EST (GMT-5)
Expressing my personal opinion of you, which is based on the things you've said (and is shared by others, I might add) is not "strong-arming."
3 months ago - Sunday 8/25/19 - 4:54:50 PM EST (GMT-5)
And no I don’t think that being jaded about politics is immature. Taking everything into consideration I find it to be a valid stance that political legislative solutions and an ever expanding government are things to be wary of and even oppose.
3 months ago - Sunday 8/25/19 - 4:56:43 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Sunday 8/25/19 - 4:53:52 PM birdsong4j wrote:
Expressing my personal opinion of you, which is based on the things you've said (and is shared by others, I might add) is not "strong-arming."


Okay. I’m not attacking you personally. Honestly I struggle with depression. I apologize if I’m interrupting your social niceties. I try I really do.

But of course struggling with depression is just for immature people too.
3 months ago - Sunday 8/25/19 - 4:57:06 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Sunday 8/25/19 - 4:06:23 PM birdsong4j wrote:
No, the problem is actually simple. We have more guns than people, it's unbelievably easy to get a gun, and no other advanced country has the problem with mass shootings that we do, because they don't have nearly as many guns per capita.


I disagree with the last part of your statement. I don't think the number of guns per capital is the reason we have mass shootings, and other countries do not.

3 months ago - Sunday 8/25/19 - 5:33:14 PM EST (GMT-5)
...and I don't understand how your graphic showing gun ownership and suicides shows the cause of mass shootings.
3 months ago - Sunday 8/25/19 - 5:35:18 PM EST (GMT-5)
Oh my lord, dude, no one is talking about your depression but you.

This isn't anything to do with "social niceties," or your depression. It's to do with the things you say.
3 months ago - Sunday 8/25/19 - 8:19:53 PM EST (GMT-5)
You mean my differing political opinions?
3 months ago - Sunday 8/25/19 - 8:28:15 PM EST (GMT-5)
And yes. I am talking about my depression. That’s kind of helpful for me sometimes. My apologies for using an open forum as an open forum.
3 months ago - Monday 8/26/19 - 12:00:20 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Sunday 8/25/19 - 4:27:10 PM birdsong4j wrote:
"If you believe in legislation to solve problems, you are endorsing 'political strong-arming"' is one of the more ridiculous claims you've ever made.


legislation was made to combat racism, yet people are still racist to the point where people openly fly the confederate and nazi flags and wear KKK outfits. i can see where he's coming from.

i remember there was a man who convinced many white supremacists to renounce racism, imagine if we had more people like that around. i don't know how many politicians convinced people to just give up racism like that.
3 months ago - Monday 8/26/19 - 12:01:52 PM EST (GMT-5)
https://www.npr.org/2017/08/20/5448...

this is the guy i'm talking about. i think he's a great example for people to follow.
3 months ago - Monday 8/26/19 - 3:28:27 PM EST (GMT-5)


Yes, there are still racists, but it is now illegal to discriminate against someone based on the color of their skin. Surely you aren't saying that we'd be better off without that landmark legislation?
3 months ago - Monday 8/26/19 - 3:30:52 PM EST (GMT-5)
Also hats off to guyo but it's not the responsibility of people of colour to change hearts and minds of racists.
3 months ago - Monday 8/26/19 - 4:25:10 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 8/26/19 - 3:28:27 PM Spoonerism wrote:
Yes, there are still racists, but it is now illegal to discriminate against someone based on the color of their skin. Surely you aren't saying that we'd be better off without that landmark legislation?


not at all, i just said i can see where amaq is coming from. people get frustrated about trying to make changes in society when politicians don't actually serve the needs of the people. that's how i interpreted what he said.
3 months ago - Monday 8/26/19 - 4:26:25 PM EST (GMT-5)
So you're saying it didn't "serve the needs of the people" to make laws against discrimination based on race? Because otherwise, I'm not sure what your point was in bringing up that particular example.
3 months ago - Monday 8/26/19 - 10:26:53 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 8/26/19 - 12:01:52 PM Inquizitor2 wrote:
[link] this is the guy i'm talking about. i think he's a great example for people to follow.


i really like when white politicians and voters support far-reaching antiracist legislation out of having a conscience and backbone instead of needing for a person of color to meekly take care of their feelings, if we're sharing preferred approaches
3 months ago - Monday 8/26/19 - 11:39:37 PM EST (GMT-5)
Civil rights act is debatable. I posted an article forever ago that my little brother showed me about the issues in identity politics which is prevalent on both sides of the aisle.

The wall would be a political legislative solution with questionable merit.

Banning all the guns when you’re admitting that everyone has guns is also suspect.
3 months ago - Tuesday 8/27/19 - 1:21:32 AM EST (GMT-5)
Yeah because everybody knows that before the civil rights act, race was not a major factor in our identities. Identity politics was born out of that legislation.
3 months ago - Tuesday 8/27/19 - 1:29:07 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 8/27/19 - 1:21:32 AM Spoonerism wrote:
Yeah because everybody knows that before the civil rights act, race was not a major factor in our identities. Identity politics was born out of that legislation.


Politicians appealing to people’s identity is the issue.
3 months ago - Tuesday 8/27/19 - 2:32:07 AM EST (GMT-5)
Yeah. That's definitely a direct result of the civil rights act.

And.

Even if it were.

(It's not.)

Does it you undermine the law's effects on people's lives?

F*ck. Does every piece of legislation have to be perfect in order to be worth having?
3 months ago - Tuesday 8/27/19 - 7:03:39 AM EST (GMT-5)
I love when people complain about *~*~identity politics~*~* because it pretty much tells me there's no use listening to any of the rest of what they have to say.

Our identities shape our politics. "Politics" is not some hermetically sealed thing, where other parts of our lives don't factor into our opinions (and vice versa).

The personal is political, and if you can't grasp that, you really have no business talking about politics at all, tbh.
3 months ago - Tuesday 8/27/19 - 11:58:09 AM EST (GMT-5)
That’s the problem. I believe in a separation of church and state.

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