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8,818 hits 3.2 (5 votes) Share Favorite | Flag 5 years ago by Mat

Would you rather make a fortune or a difference?


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5 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Sunday 1/25/15 - 8:15:42 PM EST (GMT-5)
I would much rather make a difference out in the world. It's by no means easy to find true happiness in life and having a surplus of money would only drive me towards worldly desires, not human ones.
5 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Sunday 1/25/15 - 10:15:15 PM EST (GMT-5)
make a fortune by making a difference. duh.
5 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 1/26/15 - 1:37:11 AM EST (GMT-5)
while it would be awesome to make a fortune, making a difference will possibly allow you to make a fortune, but maybe not in a monetary sense.
5 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 1/26/15 - 9:03:06 AM EST (GMT-5)
I'd rather make a difference. I have stress over money at times, but clearly someone who goes into teaching doesn't prioritize it as highly as many others. A difference is a more lasting legacy, too, imo.
5 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 1/26/15 - 9:24:39 AM EST (GMT-5)
Again this is one of those things that I think you can't really determine without some specifics especially with something as vague as "making a difference". I want some details before I sign the dotted line.
5 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 1/26/15 - 11:01:32 AM EST (GMT-5)
Yeah, what kind of difference? And if you have a fortune, it isn't hard to imagine you could easily make a difference.
5 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 1/26/15 - 11:11:34 AM EST (GMT-5)
I wasn't finished and hit post accidentally.

When I look at the life choices I've made however, I made decisions that I thought would produce financial stability for my family but with an eye for making a difference. As a result, we are now financially suited to retire early and devoted many productive years to making a difference. We could have made more money (I also am a teacher) we could make even more, but instead will volunteer full-time starting in may.

5 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 1/26/15 - 2:35:57 PM EST (GMT-5)
I think it's weird you two would balk at the ambiguity of "making a difference" but not have any qualms over the fortune and how it was acquired.

A fortune does give one leverage to make a difference, and you've demonstrated that connection, dacash. I would submit that if the Gateseses and Rockefeller had merely been rich, their legacy would not be as significant as they are now. Their riches helped them make the difference, but it is the difference that makes them memorable, not the money.
5 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 1/26/15 - 2:42:31 PM EST (GMT-5)
Oh, I don't think the ends justify the means. If someone is doing something evil to ge the money, I doubt they are then going to turn around and do something wonderful once they have some. Most people think they would always like a little bit more. Makes a great movie though.

I think that it is much more difficult, and actually somewhat rare, for people to get wealthy by doing things that are immoral. I'm not saying there aren't plenty of obvious cases of it happening (it makes the news) but compared to the number of people that just worked hard and treated people well and loved what they did and therefore gave it their all and all of that paid off? No, I think the second happens quietly and fairly often.
5 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 1/26/15 - 2:46:56 PM EST (GMT-5)
I don't disagree, but it seems like a potential trap to be far more wary of than "making a difference."
5 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 1/26/15 - 6:15:38 PM EST (GMT-5)
It seems like it might take away some from the discussion, but what I had in mind for making a fortune without making a difference was something like the stock market. Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like one trader could make what would amount to a fortune without being too impactful. I didn't having anything in mind for making a difference other than the lack of monetary benefit. Maybe teaching or research.
5 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 1/26/15 - 6:43:50 PM EST (GMT-5)
lol.

I teach, my wife does research, together we made what I think by many people's standards would be a fortune. If only it was from stock market trades, I'd have hit the trifecta! But actually, the stock market has rarely been good to us.
5 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 1/26/15 - 6:46:09 PM EST (GMT-5)
well actually after careful consideration, i think i would like to have my cake and eat it
i have solved the dilemma
5 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 1/26/15 - 6:51:21 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 1/26/15 - 6:43:50 PM dacash wrote:
actually, the stock market has rarely been good to us.

Thanks, Obama.
5 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 1/26/15 - 6:53:07 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 1/26/15 - 6:46:09 PM skyfish wrote:
well actually after careful consideration, i think i would like to have my cake and eat it i have solved the dilemma


It certainly is harder to eat one's cake if one does not have it...
5 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 1/26/15 - 8:24:45 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 1/26/15 - 2:35:57 PM IRLIteach wrote:
I think it's weird you two would balk at the ambiguity of "making a difference" but not have any qualms over the fortune and how it was acquired.


It's really simple, lots of things can make a huge difference, but it's not necessarily a difference I want to make or a difference I couldn't make while also holding a large fortune and using it to make a lot of other differences, too.

It's a matter of basic math here.
5 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 1/26/15 - 10:14:01 PM EST (GMT-5)
If someone's asking which you would rather have between two good things, it's a question about your preferences, not your rationality. Of course you want both, but which would you rather have? Which is of more importance to you?
5 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 1/26/15 - 10:51:14 PM EST (GMT-5)
But that's the thing, they're not mutually exclusive, and more often than not they're from pursuing the greater good. Unless you inherit wealth, generally your goal is pretty noble. Outside of, say, banking and finance, I can't say that I've ever met anybody who was purely interested in money, and further more, the more money you make, the law of diminishing returns sets in, and the less it's about the money and more about the power. And power for what reason? Usually noble intentions, flawed execution.
5 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 1/26/15 - 10:53:03 PM EST (GMT-5)
i heard mother teresa was a total bitch.
5 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 1/26/15 - 10:53:44 PM EST (GMT-5)
I heard Ghandi was a pervert.
5 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 1/26/15 - 10:54:28 PM EST (GMT-5)
there's a whole play about mlk jr being an adulterer.
5 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 1/26/15 - 10:55:16 PM EST (GMT-5)
Abe Lincoln was gay.
5 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 1/26/15 - 10:56:08 PM EST (GMT-5)
no he just wasn't truly inspired by humanitarian goals.
5 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Monday 1/26/15 - 11:00:18 PM EST (GMT-5)
Well that one guy had polio.
5 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Tuesday 1/27/15 - 1:47:15 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 1/26/15 - 10:56:08 PM amaqdrinker wrote:
no he just wasn't truly inspired by humanitarian goals.


For his time he was. The abolitionists were, in general, dicks. The progressives (the original movement) were dicks. Guys in the labor movement? Dicks.

Every social movement on the planet is more or less will be percieve by subsequent generations as retrograde and dickish because that's how progress works. You get a certain clip ahead and they look so far behind. Just how it goes.

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