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3,644 hits 3.4 (5 votes) Share Favorite | Flag 8 years ago by Abzurd

In your opinion, does the constitution / human rights charter protect the conscious choice of being non religious as much as it defends the right to practice a religion?
if you comment, please state if you are religious or not.


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8 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Sunday 8/23/09 - 6:17:14 PM EST (GMT-5)
I believe that's what 'religious freedom' means
8 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Sunday 8/23/09 - 6:23:48 PM EST (GMT-5)
Of course. Freedom of belief includes the belief, (or non-belief what have you) that there is no God.
8 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Sunday 8/23/09 - 6:28:30 PM EST (GMT-5)
I don't know if it's a choice. You can't help what you believe.

I do believe "freedom of religion" extends to lack thereof.
8 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Sunday 8/23/09 - 9:50:47 PM EST (GMT-5)
yes and I'm religous
8 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Sunday 8/23/09 - 10:34:23 PM EST (GMT-5)
It should, but it often doesn't.

I'm agnostic.
8 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Monday 8/24/09 - 11:37:54 AM EST (GMT-5)
i think it favors religion because basicly government is religion, its a great way to controll the people. and im agnostic.
8 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Monday 8/24/09 - 8:38:04 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Sunday 8/23/09 - 10:34:23 PM Wanderer wrote:
It should, but it often doesn't. I'm agnostic.


seconded.
8 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Monday 8/24/09 - 9:16:12 PM EST (GMT-5)
Absolutely,but people who find atheism offensive often like ignoring that part of it.

I'm not religious.
8 yrs ago - Thursday 10/22/09 - 8:18:55 PM EST (GMT-5)
It should be pretty darn obvious. The US constitution was written at a time of intellectual upheaval, by men who believed in freedom. Freedom of thought and mind most of all.

They would be the first to be outraged that anyone would interpret their work to mean anything other than absolute freedom of personal belief.
8 yrs ago - Thursday 10/22/09 - 8:27:50 PM EST (GMT-5)
I'm an atheist, and no, it doesn't protect me from discrimination.
7 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Friday 12/25/09 - 1:03:23 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Thursday 10/22/09 - 8:18:55 PM AndresH wrote:
It should be pretty darn obvious. The US constitution was written at a time of intellectual upheaval, by men who believed in freedom. Freedom of thought and mind most of all. They would be the first to be outraged that anyone would interpret their work to mean anything other than absolute freedom of personal belief.

I wasn't addressing the question from a US POV exclusively.
7 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Tuesday 1/12/10 - 1:38:08 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Sunday 8/23/09 - 10:34:23 PM Wanderer wrote:
It should, but it often doesn't. I'm agnostic.
On Monday 8/24/09 - 8:38:04 PM wilde. wrote:
seconded.


Thirded.
7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Saturday 7/10/10 - 1:22:16 PM EST (GMT-5)
I tried to think and couldn't. What's the question?
7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Saturday 7/10/10 - 2:10:05 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Sunday 8/23/09 - 10:34:23 PM Wanderer wrote:
It should, but it often doesn't. I'm agnostic.
On Monday 8/24/09 - 8:38:04 PM wilde. wrote:
seconded.
On Tuesday 1/12/10 - 1:38:08 PM HarryNJ wrote:
Thirded.

Fourthed
7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Saturday 7/10/10 - 3:02:39 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Saturday 7/10/10 - 1:22:16 PM marc780 wrote:
I tried to think and couldn't. What's the question?


What a useful and necessary post
7 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Saturday 7/10/10 - 3:55:37 PM EST (GMT-5)
Freedom of religion includes freedom from religion, as I've always seen it. I'm curious as to why many of the posters don't think their right to not be religious isn't being protected.

And I'm agnostic.
4 yrs ago - Thursday 10/31/13 - 12:20:33 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Saturday 7/10/10 - 3:55:37 PM BlackBird77 wrote:
Freedom of religion includes freedom from religion, as I've always seen it. I'm curious as to why many of the posters don't think their right to not be religious isn't being protected. And I'm agnostic.

Funny, our Justice mp just said the exact opposite.
4 yrs ago - Thursday 10/31/13 - 12:35:37 AM EST (GMT-5)
the US constitution absolutely does protect religious and non religious equally

but the people in power happen to be Christian and routinely do things that shouldn't be considered constitutional
they seem to be trying to instill a state religion

their power has lessened as of late and things are getting better, but there are still too many laws being enforced that are strictly for religious reasons

see: gay rights
4 yrs ago - Thursday 10/31/13 - 1:03:49 AM EST (GMT-5)
If you think that the state of gay rights in this country are 'imposing a state religion', how do you explain the anti-gay policies that are in effect in other countries that aren't really Christian? Gay rights are far better in the US than they are in Russia, China, the Middle East, Africa, etc.
4 yrs ago - Thursday 10/31/13 - 8:05:03 AM EST (GMT-5)
so?
4 yrs ago - Thursday 10/31/13 - 8:09:48 AM EST (GMT-5)
just because other countries are sh-ttier than the US in this regard doesn't mean the US treatment of gays isn't sh-tty
4 yrs ago - Thursday 10/31/13 - 8:11:51 AM EST (GMT-5)
I shouldn't say it's just gays though
it's the entire LGBT community

and anyone who thinks otherwise is woefully unaware of what goes on in most parts of this country
4 yrs ago - Thursday 10/31/13 - 8:50:43 AM EST (GMT-5)
My point is that it isn't 'Christianity as a State religion' that is behind our country's attitude toward gays.
4 yrs ago - Thursday 10/31/13 - 9:05:24 AM EST (GMT-5)
I don't know what else you could attribute it to other than people using their religious beliefs to make laws

I mean, I'm not against religious people using their convictions to make laws as long as those laws can stand on their own without religion

but all laws curtailing the rights of the LGBT community are strictly religious in nature
instituted by Christians
4 yrs ago - Thursday 10/31/13 - 9:08:15 AM EST (GMT-5)
Which is why I made my comment about the other countries. Since their laws obviously stand on their own without the Christian religion, it seems inappropriate to say that the US is imposing Christianity as a state religion because we don't have gay friendly laws.



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