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817 hits 2.0 (1 vote) Share Favorite | Flag 9 years ago by cryndigo

Do you think criminals want to be rehabilitated?

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9 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Monday 3/23/09 - 4:17:36 PM EST (GMT-5)
I think they like committing crimes and I don't think they want to be rehabilitated at all.
9 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Monday 3/23/09 - 4:23:43 PM EST (GMT-5)
I imagine some of them do and some of them don't.

I know I've broken a bunch of laws, so I guess I'm a criminal. Just this morning I ran a stop sign on my bike. And I don't particularly want to waste time being rehabilitated.

But if I ever went to jail and rehabilitation = not ever going back, then you can bet your ass this criminal would be more than interested.
9 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Monday 3/23/09 - 4:55:25 PM EST (GMT-5)
You can't generalize something like that - some really do, some couldn't care less. A lot of criminals are mentally ill, even sociopaths - they don't have the ability to want to care about society. But I think prisons should still focus on rehabilitation for those who can and want to be helped.
9 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Monday 3/23/09 - 8:51:29 PM EST (GMT-5)
Um, some sure.. Sure a few commit the crimes for nothing but attention in the first place. Others, nah. No matter how much jail time or rehab you give someone they wont change.
9 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Monday 3/23/09 - 11:46:15 PM EST (GMT-5)
some do, some are sociopaths and dont know any better and you couldnt change them if you tried.
9 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Tuesday 3/24/09 - 2:17:31 PM EST (GMT-5)
some do and some don't.
9 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Tuesday 3/24/09 - 3:55:53 PM EST (GMT-5)
Probably not. When it comes down to gang members... they chose that lifestyle and choose to keep it.
9 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Wednesday 3/25/09 - 12:00:55 AM EST (GMT-5)
It's not black and white,
9 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Wednesday 3/25/09 - 12:18:24 AM EST (GMT-5)
9 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Wednesday 3/25/09 - 12:20:45 AM EST (GMT-5)
This is an individual thing.
9 yrs ago, 2 mos ago - Wednesday 3/25/09 - 3:16:41 PM EST (GMT-5)
I really think it would depend on the criminal.
9 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 4/25/09 - 2:19:10 AM EST (GMT-5)
I think some do, but probably believe they don't deserve to get a second chance.
9 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Thursday 5/7/09 - 3:09:34 AM EST (GMT-5)
I think that they feign wanting to be rehabilitated so that they get back on the street and keep using and committing whatever criminals acts they were before.
1 yr ago, 5 mos ago - Monday 1/9/17 - 10:04:19 AM EST (GMT-5)
I would say most do not
1 yr ago, 5 mos ago - Monday 1/9/17 - 10:18:25 AM EST (GMT-5)
When you look at crime statistics, there's an obvious correlation with socioeconomic status and crime rates- - especially among the unemployed and under educated.

Before someone launches into a "land of opportunity" argument, yes that is America's schtick, but there's no denying that it's Orwellian at its core. We all have equal opportunity to succeed. Some of us just have more equal opportunity than others.

So since I see the drivers of most crime to be lack of opportunity and inequality of wealth, I don't believe most criminals are predisposed to criminality because of a love of being evil. I believe the recidivism rates show that we do a terrible job of preparing people to leave prison and rejoin society, but it doesn't mean that it's not something criminals would desire.
1 yr ago, 5 mos ago - Monday 1/9/17 - 4:16:38 PM EST (GMT-5)
i'm sure there are some who want to be rehabilitated and that is fine, nothing wrong with that at all. you feel remorse for your actions, you serve your time, and you go back out and change your ways.

but there are some criminals who can't be rehabilitated, no matter how many people you get to try to do the job, and no matter how good they are at their job.
1 yr ago, 5 mos ago - Monday 1/9/17 - 6:17:30 PM EST (GMT-5)
Actually, spooner, I'd take the other end of that schtick. The are lots of low SES folks who choose not to commit crimes but are every bit if not more desperate than the few that do. It is still a choice.
1 yr ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 6:58:10 AM EST (GMT-5)
Of course it's a choice. But it's a choice made more difficult by circumstance.

My point isn't that crime is acceptable, it's that criminals aren't criminals because they're evil (for the most part). They're criminals because they made bad choices out of desperation.

As such, I definitely think rehabilitation is possible and desirable.
1 yr ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 7:06:27 AM EST (GMT-5)
That fails to make sense to me. If a choice isn't difficult, of what consequence is the choice? I'm saying: what good are your ethics or morals if, when the chips are down, you don't actually apply them? Ethics are designed for those times when the choices is hard.

I would say that those circumstances don't favor or cause poor character, they merely reveal it. I remember the LA riots. The opportunity for lawlessness was rampant. People in nice cars drove in and committed acts of thievery: the circumstances revealed their character, it didn't change it.

And I do think rehab is possible and desirable - because as you say it is about bad choices. But I also know I've met a few people, very few, who are just evil. And no amount of rehabilitation is going to change those people.
1 yr ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 7:25:31 AM EST (GMT-5)
Again, I want to point out I'm not excusing criminal behavior (except for maybe non-violent drug arrests, but let's not derail the thread). I'm just explaining why, imo, rehabilitation is possible. It's an argument against the attitude of: "I think they like committing crimes and I don't think they want to be rehabilitated at all."
1 yr ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 5:19:49 PM EST (GMT-5)
Having had 7 years and 9 months to reflect on this question, my position remains the same.
I've known many criminals, and none of them would rather do an honest days work instead of doing whatever it is they actually do.
It could be dealing drugs, or stealing cars, or I don't know what else. But of the people I know who have been in prison, every one of them has been multiple times. We've even tried to get some of them out of their criminal past, but they never really give it up. For example a crackhead. He swore up and down he was done with that life, several times, and every time he did, he went right back the same or the next night to go and do crack. He's already been in prison twice for dealing crack, but does he even want to stay out of prison, or is he trying his hardest to go back because that's the easy life for him? He talks about it like it was the best time of his life.
1 yr ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 1/12/17 - 12:02:06 PM EST (GMT-5)
do you mean dealing crack or being in prison as the "easy life"? prisoners might have it better than some people. free board and lodging and medical care, something some people have to work their tails off to get doing honest work.

if you mean dealing crack, screwing a bunch of addicts over just to get money doesn't seem like it would be an easy life, with both law enforcement and other criminals breathing down your neck.
1 yr ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 1/12/17 - 3:41:42 PM EST (GMT-5)
1 yr ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 1/14/17 - 5:12:54 PM EST (GMT-5)
i mean i guess it depends on who you are. like if you're a child molester in prison, i doubt your life would be easy at all, in fact, it would be the opposite.

if you're a mob boss or drug kingpin, heck, you'd live better than most people who follow the law. pablo escobar basically turned prison into some sort of vacation home, but i doubt that it would happen in the US.

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