Pistorius is at the centre of a debate that will shape the nature of sport for the next century. He wants to compete in the Olympic Games against able-bodied athletes, an ambition that has left officials groping for a workable criterion of fairness in the midst of technological advances that could redefine the limits of athletic endeavour for able and disabled athletes.

In a nutshell, do Pistorius’s carbon-fibre legs represent unfair competition vis-à-vis their flesh-and-blood equivalent? What if able-bodied athletes start to wield technical aides of similar sophistication?

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Should Oscar Pistorius be allowed to compete in able-bodied athletic events?
Pistorius is at the centre of a debate that will shape the nature of sport for the next century. He wants to compete in the Olympic Games against able-bodied athletes, an ambition that has left officials groping for a workable criterion of fairness in the midst of technological advances that could redefine the limits of athletic endeavour for able and disabled athletes.

In a nutshell, do Pistorius’s carbon-fibre legs represent unfair competition vis-à-vis their flesh-and-blood equivalent? What if able-bodied athletes start to wield technical aides of similar sophistication?

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12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 4/25/07 - 3:04:11 PM EST (GMT-5)
I think that if he's able to compete and really wants it I don't see why he shouldn't be allowed.
12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Wednesday 4/25/07 - 3:06:13 PM EST (GMT-5)
is a picture and a brief explanation too much to hope for?
12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 4/26/07 - 8:17:07 AM EST (GMT-5)
I did put a link in!
12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 4/26/07 - 9:25:05 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 4/25/2007 3:04:12 PM angeleyesgr wrote:
I think that if he's able to compete and really wants it I don't see why he shouldn't be allowed.

I agree. If he can do it, he should be allowed to compete.

12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 4/26/07 - 10:26:34 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 4/25/2007 3:06:13 PM zerkalo wrote:
is a picture and a brief explanation too much to hope for?
Word.
On 4/26/2007 8:17:08 AM peledavid16 wrote:
I did put a link in!

Links don't link in the story.
12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 4/26/07 - 3:18:22 PM EST (GMT-5)
Sure. Go for it. If he can't, then someone should provide a real link so I can feel bad for him.
12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 4/26/07 - 3:28:55 PM EST (GMT-5)
I think so. Of course there's the argument that he's not using the same 'tools' as another person. But you know what? We're all born with different traits. Some swimmers have bigger feet, so they can swim faster (it is true!).... so why not this?
12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Thursday 4/26/07 - 4:10:33 PM EST (GMT-5)
No. His prosthetics add extra bounce in his stride and would give him an advantage. It wouldn't be fair the the other athletes.
12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 4/28/07 - 2:33:36 AM EST (GMT-5)
No, for several reasons, partially including the one Phix mentioned. Also, the noise they mentioned may make it hard for other atheletes to concentrate. Then again, maybe not.
12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 4/28/07 - 4:57:47 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 4/28/2007 2:33:36 AM Zeofar wrote:
No, for several reasons, partially including the one Phix mentioned. Also, the noise they mentioned may make it hard for other atheletes to concentrate. Then again, maybe not.

If that is so, I'm sure they could reduce the 'noise' by some way or another.

I don't see the problem with this at all.

12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Sunday 4/29/07 - 8:31:34 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 4/29/2007 8:31:18 AM reyrey619 wrote:
Who?

Read the bloody link!
12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Sunday 5/6/07 - 4:51:58 PM EST (GMT-5)
I think I saw something about him on TV and it looked like he could jump double anyone else with those metal things. They could reduce the bounce a bit.
12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Sunday 5/6/07 - 9:39:03 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 4/28/2007 2:33:36 AM Zeofar wrote:
No, for several reasons, partially including the one Phix mentioned. Also, the noise they mentioned may make it hard for other atheletes to concentrate. Then again, maybe not.

I agree with that.
12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Monday 5/7/07 - 4:33:05 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 4/25/2007 3:06:13 PM zerkalo wrote:
is a picture and a brief explanation too much to hope for?

you've been heard.
12 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Monday 5/21/07 - 10:02:51 AM EST (GMT-5)
okay, so here we are in 2007, and maybe its perfectly fair for him to compete...but 10 years down the road, who knows what technology will be able to do, and we will have to draw the line somewhere...i think you should draw that line now, before the problem arises, there is a special olympics for a reason, and maybe in the future, there will be an olympics for people who gain an advantage from their disability, but you cant integrate them, because you will run into problems down the road...
12 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Monday 5/21/07 - 10:55:48 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 5/21/2007 10:02:52 AM p-tobes wrote:
okay, so here we are in 2007, and maybe its perfectly fair for him to compete...but 10 years down the road, who knows what technology will be able to do, and we will have to draw the line somewhere...i think you should draw that line now, before the problem arises, there is a special olympics for a reason, and maybe in the future, there will be an olympics for people who gain an advantage from their disability, but you cant integrate them, because you will run into problems down the road...

As much as I would love integration of a kind, it is highly implausible.

Unless all athletes were able to wear adapted shoes which work in the same way as his legs, but then that would be a different kind of racing wouldn't it?

12 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Monday 5/21/07 - 6:19:41 PM EST (GMT-5)
THe problem isn't that they don't think he is able, it is that they are wondering if it gives him an unfair advantage. I don't think he should be allowed to compete because the olympics are to see who has trained their fleshy human body to be the best in the world. What if I just replaced parts of my body that get worn by fatigue is mechanical apendages. It wouldn't be fair. You have to draw the line somewhere, and I think it should be drawn at no prosthetics or mechanical replacements of human body parts whatsoever. If we let this slide, it will be get harder and harder to draw a line. What if someday in the far future some robot with a human brain attached to it is allowed to compete? 100% flesh and blood only.
12 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Tuesday 5/22/07 - 9:17:56 AM EST (GMT-5)
say no to cyborgs.
12 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Tuesday 5/22/07 - 6:52:02 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 4/26/2007 10:26:34 AM IRLIteach wrote:
On 4/25/2007 3:06:13 PM zerkalo wrote: is a picture and a brief explanation too much to hope for?Word. On 4/26/2007 8:17:08 AM peledavid16 wrote: I did put a link in! Links don't link in the story.

Copy and Paste, lazy-ass.
12 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Tuesday 5/22/07 - 8:33:37 PM EST (GMT-5)
No, not because he has an "advantage", but because it's the ABLE-BODIED olympics. The special olympics aren't less honorable then the able-bodied ones. Just like alowing a women onto a mens basketball team. A professional womens basketball player is about the same skill level as a mens basketball player, but she plays in the WOMENS league because she is a WOMEN.
12 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Wednesday 5/23/07 - 8:17:45 PM EST (GMT-5)
I don't think his prothesis makes any difference. In my book, if he can do all the things an able-bodied person can, hes able-bodied. On the other hand, I do agree with superdave22...
12 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Wednesday 5/23/07 - 9:19:09 PM EST (GMT-5)
He is not naturally able bodied so no.
12 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Thursday 5/24/07 - 5:09:36 PM EST (GMT-5)
If he doesn't get an advantage, I don't see why not.
12 yrs ago, 4 mos ago - Thursday 5/24/07 - 9:10:27 PM EST (GMT-5)
I don't think so, it's not really fair to the others
12 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Thursday 7/5/07 - 7:38:43 PM EST (GMT-5)
it depends on the handicap and what they're using to help out with it.

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