On April 12, 2007, the British prime minister broke one of the biggest taboos in Western politics: talking frankly about black crime.  He said  in a lecture in Cardiff, Wales that people had to drop their political correctness and recognize that the violence would not be stopped 'by pretending it is not young black kids doing it'.

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Do you agree with Tony Blair`s recent public statement about black crime?
On April 12, 2007, the British prime minister broke one of the biggest taboos in Western politics: talking frankly about black crime. He said in a lecture in Cardiff, Wales that people had to drop their political correctness and recognize that the violence would not be stopped `by pretending it is not young black kids doing it`.


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12 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Tuesday 4/17/07 - 5:30:42 AM EST (GMT-5)
Yes they are involved, but they are not the only ones. Young white males are the violent ones around here.
12 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Tuesday 4/17/07 - 5:41:23 AM EST (GMT-5)
I actually think that it's wrong that it's a taboo. A lot of crime is caused by young black kids from the poor areas. They're not breaking the laws because they're black, they're breaking the law because even in this day and age, they are being brought up in poor conditions with the prejudice always looming over them.

People become what they're told they are.

12 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Tuesday 4/17/07 - 5:55:11 AM EST (GMT-5)
Look at us, America! We can blame the black kids just like you!
12 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Tuesday 4/17/07 - 5:58:05 AM EST (GMT-5)
it's fine to talk about it as lonh as everyone remembers it's not only black teenagers involved
12 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Tuesday 4/17/07 - 9:10:00 AM EST (GMT-5)
No, I don't because crimes are commmitted by a person of every race. We have that with the Albanians here but the Greeks commit crimes as well.

I think for some people it's better to blame it on people from another race and country than to blame it on people from the same race and country.

12 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Tuesday 4/17/07 - 9:13:53 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 4/17/2007 9:10:01 AM angeleyesgr wrote:
No, I don't because crimes are commmitted by a person of every race. We have that with the Albanians here but the Greeks commit crimes as well. I think for some people it's better to blame it on people from another race and country than to blame it on people from the same race and country.

The point of his comments were not "blame". He was outlining a serious problem in our society that must be addressed. Ignoring it (As PC dictates you should) just makes the problem worse.

12 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Tuesday 4/17/07 - 9:17:48 AM EST (GMT-5)
I think it's more of a class problem than a race problem, but most people aren't going to pick up on that.
12 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Tuesday 4/17/07 - 9:19:14 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 4/17/2007 9:17:48 AM melLowStar wrote:
I think it's more of a class problem than a race problem, but most people aren't going to pick up on that.

It's both, and they're both closely related.

12 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Tuesday 4/17/07 - 9:20:01 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 4/17/2007 9:13:54 AM Isthiezak wrote:
On 4/17/2007 9:10:01 AM angeleyesgr wrote: No, I don't because crimes are commmitted by a person of every race. We have that with the Albanians here but the Greeks commit crimes as well. I think for some people it's better to blame it on people from another race and country than to blame it on people from the same race and country. The point of his comments were not "blame". He was outlining a serious problem in our society that must be addressed. Ignoring it (As PC dictates you should) just makes the problem worse.

I think he ignored the fact that white people commit crimes to. It's not only black people that commit crimes, that's why I said that the Albanians(could be black people) commit crimes too but the Greeks(white people) also commit crime. It's not only one color,nationality that commits crime.

12 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Tuesday 4/17/07 - 9:21:05 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 4/17/2007 9:19:14 AM Isthiezak wrote:
It's both, and they're both closely related.

I'm aware that the problem can't just be attributed to one factor; I do think crime is more tied to economics than race, though, hence my use of the word "more".

12 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Tuesday 4/17/07 - 9:22:58 AM EST (GMT-5)
Of course he didn't ignore it. The issue is that a majority of the crimes are being committed by an ethnic minority. There's a reason for this, and it cannot be resolved unless someone has the balls to point it out and try and do something about it.

Sure people will get pissed off, but people are stupid. People these days WANT to kick off without thinking things through properly.

Good on Tony, I say.

12 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Tuesday 4/17/07 - 9:23:55 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 4/17/2007 9:21:05 AM melLowStar wrote:
On 4/17/2007 9:19:14 AM Isthiezak wrote: It's both, and they're both closely related. I'm aware that the problem can't just be attributed to one factor; I do think crime is more tied to economics than race, though, hence my use of the word "more".

Yes, but I believe that both are closely related. Necessitating the use of the word "both".

12 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Tuesday 4/17/07 - 9:24:26 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 4/17/2007 9:20:01 AM angeleyesgr wrote:
I think he ignored the fact that white people commit crimes to. It's not only black people that commit crimes, that's why I said that the Albanians(could be black people) commit crimes too but the Greeks(white people) also commit crime. It's not only one color,nationality that commits crime.

Well, yes.
Obviously, you're going to get criminals of all sorts from every social/racial group.

In the U.S., 70-year-old Korean women commit crimes, too, but they don't come anywhere close to committing *most* of them.

If there's a race living in a country that makes up, say, 15% of the population yet is arrested for about half of its crimes, there's a problem.
There could be a problem with the prejudicial justice system, with economics (which is tied to race), or an interplay of both; no one is suggesting that it's *solely* due to race, though.

12 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Tuesday 4/17/07 - 9:25:31 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 4/17/2007 5:58:06 AM glennh70 wrote:
it's fine to talk about it as lonh as everyone remembers it's not only black teenagers involved

I agree. There is nothing wrong with singling out and attempting to tackle and understand the issues that are unique to minority communities which may contribute to crime and poverty.

Also talking frankly about black crime is not taboo as long as it's social workers and Police officials etc. doing the talking though. (i.e. people that are qualified).

I don't know what Tony Blair was trying to achieve with that statement but it sounds like he's implying that black teenagers be made a scapegoat.

12 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Tuesday 4/17/07 - 9:25:54 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 4/17/2007 9:24:27 AM melLowStar wrote:
There could be a problem with the prejudicial justice system, with economics (which is tied to race), or an interplay of both; no one is suggesting that it's *solely* due to race, though.

Precisely, but of course people are going to hear it as Blair saying that they commit crimes because they're black.

12 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Tuesday 4/17/07 - 9:46:43 AM EST (GMT-5)
I wonder how many people who insist elsewhere that race doesn't matter will now applaud Blair for talking frankly about it.

I think it's a risky thing for a White person to talk about because history makes Black people pretty skittish when it comes to additional criticism. It's the kind of message Black people need a Black person to present if they're going to take it to heart.

12 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Tuesday 4/17/07 - 9:49:54 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 4/17/2007 9:46:44 AM IRLIteach wrote:
I wonder how many people who insist elsewhere that race doesn't matter will now applaud Blair for talking frankly about it. I think it's a risky thing for a White person to talk about because history makes Black people pretty skittish when it comes to additional criticism. It's the kind of message Black people need a Black person to present if they're going to take it to heart.

it might not have been intended for a generally black audience. I think he was just saying it was time for society to look at the problem in general and not be scared to refer to 'black boys' etc.

12 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Tuesday 4/17/07 - 10:43:49 AM EST (GMT-5)
It's a good point, and I agree. We shouldn't allow a problem to continue for fear of talking honestly about what it is.
I suspect that some people will not be willing to listen to it, though, because he is White.
12 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 4/18/07 - 3:13:33 PM EST (GMT-5)
i think that Blair hadn't intended for the black socity to hear about the statement but at the same time it needed to be said because yes there are young black men being stupid and falling in to the stero types that they have branded them with. but also at the same time he needs to address every other racial issue that effects the world today. It is easy to highlight one persons faults to cover your own. With that being said the black community needs not to get offended when someone of another races makes these types of comments but figure out away to change the situation if it is true and prove them wrong.

just how i feel about it but what do i know

12 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 4/18/07 - 3:30:14 PM EST (GMT-5)
I'm glad he hasn't let political correctness get in the way of saying such things, like many others have.
12 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 4/18/07 - 8:07:36 PM EST (GMT-5)
Young black kids may make up a large portion of criminals, but I still think that comment is pretty insulting. There are plenty of criminals who aren't young black kids.
12 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 4/19/07 - 3:27:08 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 4/17/2007 9:46:44 AM IRLIteach wrote:
I wonder how many people who insist elsewhere that race doesn't matter will now applaud Blair for talking frankly about it.

Anyone who says "race doesn't matter" is making a comment so vague and unhelpful that they've clearly not put any thought into it.


12 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 4/19/07 - 9:47:56 AM EST (GMT-5)
It's difficult to disagree with that statement, I don't even think it's politically incorrect.
12 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 4/19/07 - 10:40:18 AM EST (GMT-5)
i dont really know hes right but he is wrong at the same time and really i hate all goverment
12 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 4/19/07 - 3:34:44 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 4/19/2007 10:40:18 AM xXgothgurlXx wrote:
i dont really know hes right but he is wrong at the same time and really i hate all goverment

did you write that after a bottle of brandy or something?


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