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6,029 hits Rate me! Share Favorite | Flag 9 years ago by Ongooshk

Would you find it funny if Jesus was a homosexual?


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9 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 3/29/05 - 12:26:11 AM EST (GMT-5)
Okay, let me spell it out in bulleted form.

-Homosexuality is defined as ATTRACTION (not lust) to those of the same gender.
-Lust is attraction taken to an extreme form, harmful to anyone regardless of orientation.
-It is possible for someone to be homosexual and never carry out the "sin" of "homosexual sex."
-Therefore, homosexuality in and of itself is NOT a sin.

9 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 3/29/05 - 12:27:42 AM EST (GMT-5)
Well then the way I'm using the word "homosexuality" would be more as a person who acts upon the sin. I, again, have never met someone who was homosexual but didn't act upon it. One of the definitions I have says that homosexual is someone who practices homosexuality. Practices implies acting upon the homosexuality - which is a sin.
9 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 3/29/05 - 12:27:51 AM EST (GMT-5)
Disagree all you want, but there's not a single translation I've read of the Bible that states that attraction in itself is a sin, nor that simply being attracted to those of the same sex is. Whereas lust is stated as such and "homosexual sex" is stated as such in (nearly) every translation, those aren't prerequisites for homosexuality in and of itself.
9 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 3/29/05 - 12:28:34 AM EST (GMT-5)
Then you missed it when I said over and over that one can be homosexual without necessarily having sex, as I said that repeatedly before.
9 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 3/29/05 - 12:29:25 AM EST (GMT-5)
I know what you "repeatedly said before," but homosexuality defined as a practice is a sin. No matter how many times you say ("think") someone can be homosexual without acting on it.
9 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 3/29/05 - 12:31:13 AM EST (GMT-5)
"No matter how many times you say ("think") someone can be homosexual without acting on it."

Someone can be heterosexual without acting on it, can they not?

9 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 3/29/05 - 12:31:54 AM EST (GMT-5)
Yeah - but being heterosexual isn't a sin.
9 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 3/29/05 - 12:32:14 AM EST (GMT-5)
It's how God created us - man for woman.
9 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 3/29/05 - 12:33:01 AM EST (GMT-5)
Do you really think God would create a man who wants another man when He created man for woman. When He took the rib of a man to create the woman??
9 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 3/29/05 - 12:35:17 AM EST (GMT-5)
"Yeah - but being heterosexual isn't a sin."

*sigh* You just conceeded that it was the ACT that was the sin, though, didn't you? You're not making any bloody sense!

9 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 3/29/05 - 12:35:56 AM EST (GMT-5)
*sigh* You're irritating me. Man was created for Woman NOT FOR MAN.
9 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 3/29/05 - 12:35:59 AM EST (GMT-5)
"Do you really think God would create a man who wants another man when He created man for woman. When He took the rib of a man to create the woman??"

Do you think God would create a man capable of killing another man? Wait, Adam and Eve's own sons... Man is flawed. Deal with it.

9 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 3/29/05 - 12:36:38 AM EST (GMT-5)
He didn't create man capable of killing another man. That's a choice ... just like homosexuality. DING DING DING!!
9 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 3/29/05 - 12:37:44 AM EST (GMT-5)
... I quit. You're not even making sense of your own scripture, let alone any logical sense.
9 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 3/29/05 - 12:47:29 AM EST (GMT-5)
The mindset of homosexuality is a continuing refusal to accept Christianity fully. Someone can call themselves a homosexual and someone can call themselves a harlot, but to say you're a non-practicing homosexual is like saying you're a non-practicing harlot. Would a Christian say they're a harlot even though you're not acting on it? The fact that he doesn't want to refrain from calling himself a homosexual shows that he hasn't truly accepted Christ or his teachings. He's still hanging on to this lifestyle that is sinful - whether he goes out and acts on it or not. Keeping that title is showing that they still don't think it's a bad thing. The sin is in the thought process just as much as it is in the action. Keeping that title shows that they want to hang on to that type of "lifestyle."
9 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 3/29/05 - 12:51:30 AM EST (GMT-5)
There you go! A logical arguement!

However:

"but to say you're a non-practicing homosexual is like saying you're a non-practicing harlot."

A harlot is defined by occupation, a homosexual by an innate characteristic of who they're attracted to. In other words, they aren't both defined by action; only one is. It's similar to equation, say... A politican with an optimist. One's an occupation, one's defined by personality. Unfortunately, you follow through with that incorrect assumption the whole way through, also tacking on that there's really a unique "lifestyle" that in itself is also sinful.

9 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 3/29/05 - 12:55:01 AM EST (GMT-5)
If you don't like my other "examples" then you could look at the simple fact that hanging onto the title of "homosexual" shows that they're not fully accepting Christianity, which shows that a homosexual can't truly be a practicing Christian. They wouldn't need this title if they truly believed and practiced the teachings of the bible.
9 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 3/29/05 - 12:56:03 AM EST (GMT-5)
You've never heard of someone called a harlot even though they're not actually going out and prostituting themselves? I'm pretty sure I have...You don't necessarily have to do it to know that it isn't right. To call yourself it shows your sinful mindset.
9 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 3/29/05 - 12:56:11 AM EST (GMT-5)
If you don't like my other "examples" then you could look at the simple fact that hanging onto the title of "homosexual" shows that they're not fully accepting Christianity, which shows that a homosexual can't truly be a practicing Christian. They wouldn't need this title if they truly believed and practiced the teachings of the bible.
9 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 3/29/05 - 12:56:34 AM EST (GMT-5)
wow spicy stuff, but i think malletman wins this one. each of us is born with unique proclevities towards some sort of sin. some towards alcoholisim, or murder, or whatever, we all have dark tendencies toward the bestial. but overcoming this is truly spiritual. God does not give us more than we can handle, just enough to test us. an alcoholic frequenting AA meetings still considers himself an alcoholic...
9 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 3/29/05 - 12:56:50 AM EST (GMT-5)
"They wouldn't need this title if they truly believed and practiced the teachings of the bible."

It's a title; who said they "need" it? Do you "need" your title of anything? Do you "need" your title of... say... "heterosexual"? A title that defines an aspect of your character? You don't "need" them, but they're an undeniable part of who you are regardless.

9 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 3/29/05 - 12:56:58 AM EST (GMT-5)
You've never heard of someone being described as a harlot even though they're not out their at the time selling themselves? I have. But it goes to show you that keeping that title shows a sinful mindset, whether or not you do it.
9 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 3/29/05 - 12:57:53 AM EST (GMT-5)
"It's a title; who said they "need" it? Do you "need" your title of anything? Do you "need" your title of... say... "heterosexual"? A title that defines an aspect of your character? You don't "need" them, but they're an undeniable part of who you are regardless."

I need it to define who I am, and someone who defines themselves as a homosexual are certainly elminating themselves as Christians.

9 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 3/29/05 - 12:58:04 AM EST (GMT-5)
is* not are
9 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Tuesday 3/29/05 - 12:58:50 AM EST (GMT-5)
It is an aspect of your character you say? Therefore it's a feature of who you are ... but Christians who accept the teachings of Christ wouldn't have a "homosexual" feature.

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