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1,774 hits Rate me! Share Favorite | Flag 16 years ago by Guerrilla

Can democracy be taught behind the barrel of a gun?


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16 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 12/4/04 - 10:25:14 PM EST (GMT-5)
Democracy is a delicate butterfly
16 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 12/4/04 - 11:27:36 PM EST (GMT-5)
Democracy is about having choice.

Behind the barrel of a gun is not choice.

16 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Saturday 12/4/04 - 11:28:46 PM EST (GMT-5)
The question is an oxymoron.
16 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Monday 12/6/04 - 3:48:54 PM EST (GMT-5)
You can't teach democracy to anyone by force. It has to be freely given or its not democracy but socialism.
16 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Monday 12/6/04 - 8:51:31 PM EST (GMT-5)
^^nwlyfree2003^^

BTW:
Technically it's not Socialism. If it's enforced militarily, it's Communism.

16 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Tuesday 12/7/04 - 4:29:43 AM EST (GMT-5)
so..what the states did/are doing in iraq.. is that democracy?
16 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Tuesday 12/7/04 - 4:39:59 AM EST (GMT-5)
^Hey, thats another can of worms in some respects. But I tend to think that democracy can't be taught, rather it must be embraced by the people willingly as a way to do things.
16 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Tuesday 12/7/04 - 11:05:46 AM EST (GMT-5)
Well, if "taught" means making someone accept and embrace the concept, then "no".

What we did in Iraq was overthrow another country's government, which in no way was justified by the original rationale.

We can, indeed, install a democratic government in its place. How democratically it will remain and/or operate is another matter.

And whether we had the right to do that will be the ultimate question.

16 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Tuesday 12/7/04 - 7:41:01 PM EST (GMT-5)
i agree with nwlyfree2003, its an oxymoron
16 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Wednesday 12/8/04 - 9:57:16 PM EST (GMT-5)
i think no.
16 yrs ago - Monday 12/27/04 - 7:31:43 PM EST (GMT-5)
look at iraq, it apperantly can't.
16 yrs ago - Monday 12/27/04 - 7:38:38 PM EST (GMT-5)
Nope, democracy can't be taught.
16 yrs ago - Saturday 1/15/05 - 5:12:50 PM EST (GMT-5)
haha, thats the american way!!

I America

15 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 2/9/05 - 8:15:27 AM EST (GMT-5)
Just to be a pretentious git: It's actually a non sequitur.

However, the American government has created in Iraq the first ever "Democratic Junta"

15 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 2/9/05 - 10:27:21 AM EST (GMT-5)
Just to clarify, The government in Afghanistan is failing, the government in Iraq will fail. Democracy at gunpoint. Good grief.

And don't bother mentioning germany and Japan. The difference there was the fighting had stopped and the people of those countries (especially Germany) actually WANTED democracy.

I realise Americans might not understand this, but not everyone thinks democracy is a good idea.

15 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 2/9/05 - 10:44:58 AM EST (GMT-5)
The government in Afghanistan is failing?
15 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 2/9/05 - 10:46:02 AM EST (GMT-5)
I would think that if the Iraqis didn't want democracy, they would not have risked their lives to cast their vote during the recent election...
15 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 2/9/05 - 10:50:15 AM EST (GMT-5)
Afghanistan. Opium poppy production HIGHER than under the Taliban, more warlords than before and corruption is rife.

It's true, many people voted in Iraq. The Sunni did not, dissidents did not. The rot has started already.

15 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 2/9/05 - 10:51:59 AM EST (GMT-5)
Opium production is a measure of governmental success?
15 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 2/9/05 - 10:54:16 AM EST (GMT-5)
Ho Ho. Very drole. I said opium production is HIGHER than under the Taliban, so one should be able to deduce that PREVENTING opium production in Afghanistan is a measure of governmental success. Nice try though.
15 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 2/9/05 - 11:00:38 AM EST (GMT-5)
Democracy is about freedom.

Freedom is about choice.

Choice is NOT about having a gun pointed at you.

15 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 2/9/05 - 12:35:21 PM EST (GMT-5)
I would think that preventing opium production would be rather low on the list of governmental priorities at this point...
15 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 2/9/05 - 12:59:44 PM EST (GMT-5)
If they want to live, I guess it can be taught.
15 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 2/9/05 - 6:10:47 PM EST (GMT-5)
Any thing can be taught...the end of a gun barrel is mearly to keep the attention of the student, without the threat of consequences nothing is learned.
15 yrs ago, 11 mos ago - Wednesday 2/9/05 - 6:12:39 PM EST (GMT-5)
Oh, I forgot that Brunnen fellow up there sounds like a French ner do well (aren't they all?)

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