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17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Monday 7/7/03 - 3:59:03 PM EST (GMT-5)
That pic on the right--priceless. Hey, JC was turning water into drugs two millennia ago, so I don't think he'd mind. Besides, marijuana highs are strangely contemplative, in a child-like way. Good for divine thought.
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17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Monday 7/7/03 - 4:05:39 PM EST (GMT-5)
hey, if he is real and he did make everything, i'd find it kind of odd that he makes a plant but hates for us to use it. besides, havent you ever heard the song "What if God Smoked Cannabis"?
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17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Monday 7/7/03 - 4:12:45 PM EST (GMT-5)
^ I agree with that, as long as you can learn from and use whatever contemplative thoughts come up. I have a friend who used it occasionally to open up and meditate, and it worked very well for him.
Then there's the negative side. If used to avoid reality, and not face certain things in life, there's a strong chance of dependancy, and all that goes along with that. It's not too helpful in this case.
I wouldn't think God would approve or disapprove - it's another personal choice, like anything, that will lead to certain consequences, certain lessons. I'm sure He often inspires people in that open state. However, if you have the intention of being the best you can be, to own your life and grow within it, then surely He would recognise that a choice to avoid reality is not particularly helpful.
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17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Monday 7/7/03 - 4:13:31 PM EST (GMT-5)
^Was referring to Wise. But hey, I like that song too.
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17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Monday 7/7/03 - 4:38:37 PM EST (GMT-5)
Hmmmm, perhaps we should consult God on this one.
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17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Monday 7/7/03 - 6:00:22 PM EST (GMT-5)
This is aimed at me, isn't it, exobyte? Isn't it?! Or maybe I'm just paranoid...
I think God's approval or disapproval of most actions depends on how it affects your faith. If I can pray for discernment in how to serve God and help fulfill His will while using marijuana, I think the marijuana is essentially a trivial detail.
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17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Monday 7/7/03 - 6:33:41 PM EST (GMT-5)
In the Bible it says not to get drunk, so I don't imagine He would approve of getting stoned.
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17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Monday 7/7/03 - 6:35:01 PM EST (GMT-5)
Yeah, then there's that. 
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17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Monday 7/7/03 - 6:35:52 PM EST (GMT-5)
Its obvious that God tokes every day. How else would we have animals such as the platypus?
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17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 7/9/03 - 12:47:03 AM EST (GMT-5)
lol @ side
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17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 7/9/03 - 12:54:06 AM EST (GMT-5)
tell you the truth I dont think hed mind
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17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 7/9/03 - 12:57:50 AM EST (GMT-5)
Why else did he give it to us? After all if he didn't want us to eat apples then why do they still grow on trees?
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17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 7/9/03 - 1:08:12 AM EST (GMT-5)
He also gave us poisons and high cliffs, and sharp things for that matter, ,drac. But it seems pretty harmless...even if its not for me
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17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 7/9/03 - 5:58:33 AM EST (GMT-5)
I really don't know enough of religion, or have much of an opinion on it to answer the question. I don't think he should mind about getting high, there are much worse things out there, but I can't say definitely whether I think he would approve or not.
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17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 7/9/03 - 10:30:51 AM EST (GMT-5)
Here is the problem....when you are "high" you are out of control. God wants to be in control of your life, and not some substance or chemical: alcohol, drugs etc. When you are not in control, someone of thing (the devil) can take control without a problem. St. Paul uses the word "sober" (KJV) often, and it basically mean "self-control" and a person under the influence is not self-controlled.
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17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 7/9/03 - 10:32:31 AM EST (GMT-5)
*or thing **means
should spend more time proofreading.
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17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 7/9/03 - 10:54:26 AM EST (GMT-5)
rebl, you've obviously never been high. so how do you know who's "in control"? reborn, you mentioned something about avoiding reality. of ocurse, youarent going to agree with me on this, but religion in itself is a way of avoiding reality.
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17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 7/9/03 - 11:02:42 AM EST (GMT-5)
Let's not forget Jesus' first miracle: Turning water into wine. There are many references to Jesus drinking wine in the Bible. So, either that is a contradiction rebl62, or you're making assumptions. And please, no BS about wine being unfermented, as there is no scientific evidence for that.
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17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 7/9/03 - 11:38:03 AM EST (GMT-5)
he created it, so why not?
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17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 7/9/03 - 4:51:54 PM EST (GMT-5)
ihearcalling - I'm not actually religious, although I do believe in God... but I won't get into that. Are you basically asking me what reality is? Lol, how long do you have?
The important point for me is that by following my spiritual path, it encourages me to look at all the "negative" things in my life - fears, insecurities, judgments - and go deep within them to find the source, and then release, heal, and grow as a result. It's all about personal growth. Using drugs to avoid reality - it's usually to avoid facing these very things - and therefore the opposite.
Religion itself as avoiding reality?? Well, I firmly believe that God IS reality, so no, it's a way of FINDING reality.
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17 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 7/9/03 - 4:58:58 PM EST (GMT-5)
Of course...
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17 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Tuesday 7/15/03 - 12:14:30 PM EST (GMT-5)
nothing wrong with drinking wine, what is wrong is getting drunk, which is the alcoholic equivalent of getting high.
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17 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Tuesday 7/15/03 - 12:19:11 PM EST (GMT-5)
So getting a light buzz off marijuana is cool with god then as it's equilvelent to drinking wine without getting drunk?
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17 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Tuesday 7/15/03 - 12:19:41 PM EST (GMT-5)
aimed at rebl62 ^
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17 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Wednesday 7/16/03 - 8:33:24 AM EST (GMT-5)
since I have never used marijuana, I do not know if you can get a "light buzz" without getting high. Besides, using marijauan is illegal, therefore, wrong, period.
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