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173 hits Rate me! Share Favorite | Flag 17 years ago by emitchell

Should the justice system focus more on punishment or rehabilitation?


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17 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Monday 7/29/02 - 7:40:54 PM EST (GMT-5)
All research and successful drug policy show that treatment should be increased, and law enforcement decreased, while abolishing mandatory minimal sentences.
17 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Monday 7/29/02 - 9:26:08 PM EST (GMT-5)
Punish them until they are rehabilitated, if they are unable to be rehabilitated lock them up for life.
17 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Monday 7/29/02 - 10:09:33 PM EST (GMT-5)
I find that incredibly ignorant, duffsca. Emtichell, in CJ class? Today, corrections is mostly a punishment based operation. I agree with digglyfiggly that drug enforcement should be lessened and treatment highted + reduce or abolish most of the controlled substance laws in their current form. Punishment and prison time should be withheld for all but the worst offenders: those who cannot be rehabilitated or are a danger to society.
17 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Monday 7/29/02 - 10:44:19 PM EST (GMT-5)
I just read an article today on a repeat child molester. The first time he was brought to court, he was sentenced to a new treatment program which supposedly decreased his sex drive. They released him later on, and he just continued molesting young girls as he had before.
17 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Monday 7/29/02 - 10:48:29 PM EST (GMT-5)
i personally think we should save our money on these treatments programs and just kill all violent and sexual offenders.
17 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Monday 7/29/02 - 10:53:16 PM EST (GMT-5)
I'm sick todeath of all these bleeding hearts. If these jerks do the crime then they can bloody well do the time. If being incarcerated doesn't "rehabilitate' them, nothing will. Therefore increase the hell out of each subsequent sentence.
17 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Monday 7/29/02 - 11:08:52 PM EST (GMT-5)
It depends on the subject at hand. Drug Use and Child Molestation are two entirely different subjects.
17 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Tuesday 7/30/02 - 12:17:15 AM EST (GMT-5)
rehabilitation, because revenge is not justice, and punishment just for the punishment is revenge. //rdj
17 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Tuesday 7/30/02 - 2:21:57 AM EST (GMT-5)
radja, punishment serves other purposes, deterence for example, the idea of getting caught and reformed will not dissuade as many criminals as the knowledge that they could end up gang-raped in prison.
17 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Tuesday 7/30/02 - 11:18:49 AM EST (GMT-5)
diggly is my hero!
17 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Tuesday 7/30/02 - 1:43:39 PM EST (GMT-5)
i sometimes wonder whether we really have a right to lock people away if they're not a danger to society.i know they have to be punished in some way, but prison costs huge amounts of money. in my opinion, prisons should be used only for people who are really going to be a threat to society and injure people. there has to be a better way of punishing other people
17 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Tuesday 7/30/02 - 3:50:57 PM EST (GMT-5)
I agree with chump. I'ts fine with me if you lock up some murderer or rapist but other offenders usually can be helped and I don't see how prison will do the trick.
17 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Sunday 8/25/02 - 8:20:59 PM EST (GMT-5)
I don't see why both things can't be done together. There should be opportunites for education and therapy type things for those that want them and/or need them. I'm not sure how the prison system works now but I don't see why that isn't a workable solution. Many people disagree w/education programs in prison because 'good citizens pay for school and why should they get it for free?' like maybe that is a motivation for someone commiting a crime. that's just stupid.
17 yrs ago, 3 mos ago - Wednesday 12/18/02 - 11:21:41 PM EST (GMT-5)
The US Dept of Justice reported that 6.5 million adults were on probation,in jail or prison, or on parole at yearend 2000 – 3.1% of all U.S. adult residents. Wow. This is a lot of people. Maybe the US justice system should focus on the laws themselves. Every legislative session puts more laws on the books making it even more likely that you and I break the law.
17 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Friday 2/21/03 - 9:07:50 AM EST (GMT-5)
well the main point of Prison is not to rehabilitate. It's to punish. Thats it, there is no other real point to it. i mean if the person becomes rehabilitated because of it, than hey thats a great side effect, but it sure isn't and shouldn't be the main goal "rehabilitation, because revenge is not justice, and punishment just for the punishment is revenge." So what do you do to your kid when they do something wrong? You rehabilitate them? no, yuou punish them. Your arguement is totally scewed on this subject in my opinion. Please think it over because that doesn't really make sense
17 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Friday 2/21/03 - 9:30:45 AM EST (GMT-5)
Big, Nice try now go back and do some research on your first sentence then come play again. Prison is not to just " PUNISH " as you stated, their are in fact three kinds of US Prisons within the Prison system. You go based on your past record. In Cali we have the CYA ( Cali Youth Authority ) its a 100 % Rehab center for violent youth, under age 25. You go there if your convicted as a minor and stay until your 25 then released. Federal prison is also 100 % rehab, for mostly non violent offenders ( blue collar crimes ) Then regular prison has two tiers within the system, the second tier is once again 100 % rehab and its punishment as well but the tier one level is 100 % punishment its a 23 hour a day lockdown. Khakl, I wonder how many of the numbers you gave are simple drug possessions i.e. mary j, crack, coke, meth or booze related.
17 yrs ago, 1 mos ago - Friday 2/21/03 - 9:31:41 AM EST (GMT-5)
its proven that today the justice system tends to just want "just deserts" and not so much rehab.
16 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Thursday 5/15/03 - 9:54:41 AM EST (GMT-5)
No. Prevention.
16 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Thursday 5/15/03 - 10:16:11 AM EST (GMT-5)
It stands to reason that the act of locking someone up *will* be a punishment. People can argue that this alone is deterrence enough, but we all know that many criminals are likely to repeat offenses when they get out. Ichi says the goal should be prevention, and that's where rehabilitation comes in. Providing job training and education to those in lockdown increases their chances of finding ways to be productive members of society when they get out. They've *been* punished by being in jail. That may or may not deter them from risking a return. An even bigger deterrence is having something to do besides committ crimes or work at McDonald's when they get out, having a goal to look forward to.
16 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Thursday 5/15/03 - 10:21:28 AM EST (GMT-5)
And to address two other points made on this thread: Child molesters, rapists and serial killers are not likely to be "rehabilitated" because their problems are fundamentally psychological. They can hardly be compared to car thieves. I think the emphasis with repeat sex offenders and the like should be to keep society safe FROM them, not help them be reintroduced. Case-by-case. And BigGun compared this to disciplining kids. Yeah, you punish the kid. But you also explain why you're punishing them, why their actions were wrong, and you *teach* them how to be productive and live within the law (of your house)...At least, if you're any kind of good parent, you do. You monitor their behavior and guide them so that they'll eventually not need your help anymore. That comparison is valid, but to make it, you have to follow through with all that's involved.
16 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Thursday 5/15/03 - 10:23:15 AM EST (GMT-5)
It should focus on prevention of commission subsequent offenses. Whether that involves permanent incarceration, execution, skinner-box conditioning, who cares - as long as the results are good.
16 yrs ago, 10 mos ago - Thursday 5/15/03 - 11:54:32 AM EST (GMT-5)
Lefty's points are correct. To clarify my position: prevention is key, both for future crimes committed by an already-convicted criminal, *and by members of the general public*. This deterrent effect should take the place of "punishment" in discussions of penalties for crimes. (See my questions on desert and revenge).



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