I honestly HATE this stupid movie search thing. I looked everywhere and couldn't find it until I made a different thread for it.
I'm going to complain about Electric's choice of stars. Mine was much better representative of the people actually in the movie. Would have put Andy Serkis and Richard Armitage instead of Elijah, Christopher, or Hugo.
So I saw this on Sunday and it was okay. Not the most mesmerizing thing ever, but it told a good story. I could have done without a few of the added chase scenes and that whole stupid part about the orc dude. I had other dislikes, but they were minimal. Didn't see it in 3d, I h8 3d.
Did not like. Too much CGI, and the 48 fps made it even more unrealistic. Like watching a well-produced video game.
Martin Freeman does his best to inject some human warmth into this, but it didn't work for me. It steered clear of a lot of the extra twee stuff, for which I was very grateful, but by doing so, made it difficult for me to empathise or care about any of the characters.
Maybe it's because it was the set-up, but it was a disappointment to me. LotR felt like it had much more substance to it, but I remember thinking that the story of The Hobbit was much more immediate, when I read it. Less concerned with the BIG stuff, and more relatable.
I guess time will tell as to whether the characters/story is developed nicely, but so far - not convinced.
i liked it. it was overly long and Gollum felt redundant and there was a lot of superficial material but the cast did a wonderful job, the score was great, and it was beautiful (of course I saw it in regular ole 24 frames, so)
i liked the movie, but there was waaay too much CGI
the LotR felt so real
the only CGI used was for the bigger creatures such as trolls, balrog, oliphant, etc
but the orcs were people in make up and damn good makeup at that
now all the orcs look smooth
there's no character to any of them, just a copy paste of all the other orcs or goblins
but once i was able to put the LotR from my mind, i was able to enjoy this movie way more
On Wednesday 12/19/12 - 4:59:41 PM Disappears wrote: i liked the movie, but there was waaay too much CGI the LotR felt so real the only CGI used was for the bigger creatures such as trolls, balrog, oliphant, etc but the orcs were people in make up and damn good makeup at that now all the orcs look smooth there's no character to any of them, just a copy paste of all the other orcs or goblins
This is exactly how I felt about it. I love the story and where it is going, but the orcs/goblins are too unrealistic compared to Lurtz and the other orcs of LotR.
I saw it in 3D tonight, and I was having a hard time focusing, so I lost some enjoyability because of that. I can't wait until I can watch it at home.
I was disappointed with the slapstick. Peter Jackson took all that was cringeworthy from LOTR and plugged it in this. Still, it was entertaining. But it was not Tolkien. It was like a Spielberg action (and I do enjoy them) with all the endless fight scenes (all wholly unrealistic) - just one example that it was all quite unoriginal filmmaking imo. It really just grazed the surface of the world. Especially that it is going to be in three parts! Honestly! I wanted it to be way darker, less precious, way way more atmospheric and complex [can Terence Malick take over going forward? It'll just be endless shots of nature but I'll take it!]. The graphics were GREAT but it was slightly anticlimactic since the whole fps build up and whatnot did not really live up to my expectations.
On Tuesday 12/25/12 - 9:39:00 PM spacepeanut wrote: I was disappointed with the slapstick. Peter Jackson took all that was cringeworthy from LOTR and plugged it in this. Still, it was entertaining. But it was not Tolkien. It was like a Spielberg action (and I do enjoy them) with all the endless fight scenes (all wholly unrealistic) <snip>
You went to see a film intended as fantasy, based on a fantasy novel and want realism?
aldod - it is fantasy but only because the world is made up. Otherwise it in the world itself is totally realistic - - dwarves who get mauled by a giant do not just get a bump on the head. the songs are not choreographed (esp the crazy plate scene??) but rather haberdashed and improvised - that sort of slapstick is so not in line with the world.
On Wednesday 12/26/12 - 1:55:36 AM aldod wrote: You went to see a film intended as fantasy, based on a fantasy novel and want realism?
And do you think all fantasy is just slapstick? Are you going to discredit a whole genre like that? It feels like your comment was just meant to jab just for the sake of it, which is so dumb, so be quiet.
Sure it is a little lighter than LOTR but it is not slapstick in any respect. There are no gags in the book at all, and putting that in the script (so often, no less) is just a slap in the face to the book. I had problems (less problems) with LOTR films but as I said it seems like the worst bits were taken from the LOTR films and put into the hobbit. As I said, it is a hollywood blockbuster and has many of the techniques of a blockbuster jammed in the film and it is not a faithful interpretation of the book.
Like, Tolkien would never let someone get almost killed and leave almost unscathed - - also when they get smashed on the head there isn't just a BONK and a semi cross eyed dwarf, it would be a real, terrible event, not a joke! There are real consequences to violence, just for example. The songs in the film, which are a small representation of the culture, were so choreographed, which would never happen in the world. It was really unrealistic. And the world IS realistic albeit it is in a fantasy setting. Also the sheer numbers of enemies and that the dwarves just took them on and survived with their crazy attacks (which was directly from hollywood - the whole bashing baddies in a circle and then charging onwards and the way they fought was silly and hollywoodized) just should not have happened
On Wednesday 12/26/12 - 12:11:14 PM Disappears wrote: that's the thing, once you are able to recognize that there are two completely separate tones to the books and the movies, you can enjoy the Hobbit way more or at least i did
Yeah, I did. I enjoyed it as a blockbuster but I have to kind of separate the hobbit movies with the books in all respects though cos like, some things were just heinous.
I had expectations and they were not met. Disappointed because Jackson et al is such a fan of the books and did not do it justice, but rather followed what hollywood dictated would sell. It is a sell out in my opinion.
I thought it was awesome. I was very skeptical about it being 3 parts but it was done really well. I agree I didnt like the CGI either, but the fact that they brought stuff in from other Tolkien books like the Simirilian to explain what the book didnt made this movie so much better. Id probably give it 4 out of 5 stars
i enjoyed it
fun, easygoing, meandering.
i liked the slapstick and general fun times vibe, in fact i could have used less of the big dramatic emotion bit
i saw it with my dad who commented that it was more like an indiana jones film than a tolkein one, and i agree
however it was way better than the last indiana jones film, so that's ok