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68,927 hits 3.5 (355 votes) Share Favorite | Flag 12 years ago by latino

Interesting Argument About Global Warming
Guy makes a very compelling argument without debating any details.
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12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 6/16/07 - 12:25:00 AM EST (GMT-5)
Guy makes a very compelling argument without debating any details.
12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 6/16/07 - 2:07:13 AM EST (GMT-5)
Yah, i saw this earlier, his theory on how its like playing the lottery makes sense... but this time its for EARTH! so what do we do? Take action? or sit back?
12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 6/16/07 - 2:11:59 AM EST (GMT-5)
Sit back. This guy is catering to the alarmist douchbags trying to make global warming look like a man-made thing. He's full of sh*t putting on a show for people that are full of sh*t.

Quite the sh*t circle they have going.

And once more, sh*t.

12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 6/16/07 - 2:19:55 AM EST (GMT-5)
HylianNinja why are you so scared of change?
12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 6/16/07 - 2:20:43 AM EST (GMT-5)
Compelling argument but I wonder if it's sound - would we really sink into an economic depression if we spent money on reducing the risks of global warming? It seems like many people are working on inexpensive alternatives. An example might be hybrid cars, which are initially more expensive, but, in the long run, save people thousands on gas, and ultimately help the economy.
12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 6/16/07 - 2:24:23 AM EST (GMT-5)
'HylianNinja why are you so scared of change?'

I'm not. Global warming is going to happen with or without us doing anything about it.

I know this, you are afraid of change.

Do you stupid f*cks think an earthquake is preventable, too?

12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 6/16/07 - 2:25:27 AM EST (GMT-5)
I'd like to add that I'm not dismissing his argument for action to prevent global warming - I'm all about "green" initiatives, but I think his data might have been exaggerated a bit.
12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 6/16/07 - 2:28:02 AM EST (GMT-5)
One could argue that as a result of economic depression social, political, public health etc. could also be affected. With that in mind i defiantly see column A as the better option. If we are wrong and we wasted time and money, well at least we were secure (similar to insurance).
The only time i would say column 'b' is if we can defiantly prove global warming doesn’t exist, otherwise measures should be taken.
With that in mind people will continue to argue because as global warming in a scientific matter it is only a matter of time until it is proved or disproved.
What could be scary however is if people with invested interest were putting 'spin' on things in order to obtain a profit. For example a fuel company many hire scientists to find small counter evidence to question global warming. In an age of 'spin' and postmodernism with no absolute truths, how can one ever actually come to any conclusions anymore?
(Sorry about the rant/ string of conscious thought)
12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 6/16/07 - 2:28:06 AM EST (GMT-5)
he's right.
if the money spent on the iraq war was put into the environment, the future of the world could be very different. the sad part is, it wouldnt matter if they spent the money on the environment instead of the war since the money put into the war is wasted!

its a given that that money might go towards helping america only, however since they contribute such a massive amount of greenhouse gas emissions and other crap, it would still help in a huge way.

12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 6/16/07 - 2:29:01 AM EST (GMT-5)
Makes sense to me. I though it was a very good video.
12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 6/16/07 - 2:30:29 AM EST (GMT-5)
HylianNinja, just to play devil's advocate here: if we continued to drive SUVs and run big polluting power plants, wouldn't global warming be WORSE than if we took steps to reduce carbon dioxide emission? I don't think global warming is all or nothing - I think we can take steps to reduce the negative effect it has on the planet, but we will probably never be able to combat it completely.
12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 6/16/07 - 2:37:28 AM EST (GMT-5)
OK. What we need is for aliens to come take us from earth and then were saved. But if that doesnt happen than we should do what they did in futarama. Put a giant icecube in the ocean periodically. But if we dont do anything and it happens i will do my best because it will be survival of the fitest.
12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 6/16/07 - 2:40:22 AM EST (GMT-5)
Picture an eighteen-wheeler on an incline, and a man standing behind it. Stick with me.

The E-brake goes out on the truck and it starts to roll backwards, should the man try to stop it or step to the side and avoid being run over?

The tractor-trailer is global warming, and the man represents any attempt that we can make to stop or slow it down.

There is also an incline at the bottom of that one that rises. Balance is nature's way, kiddies.

And the brake was let out about [however old this ball of dirt is] ago.

I guess what I'm saying is, instead of trying to prevent the planet getting a bit warmer, maybe we should prepare for what will happen when it does.

12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 6/16/07 - 2:41:15 AM EST (GMT-5)
HylianNinja "This guy is catering to the alarmist douchbags trying to make global warming look like a man-made thing"

No he's not, he's explaining the possible outcomes of human interference in this global warming issue.

HylianNinja:" Global warming is going to happen with or without us doing anything about it."

I agree on that one, but as ballaerina said I too think we can take measures to reduce the impact.

I would put my money on colum A

12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 6/16/07 - 2:47:41 AM EST (GMT-5)
I see your point, HylianNinja, but I'm not sure I entirely agree with it. Perhaps I'm being naive but I can't see the effects of global warming, even with extreme human intervention, being so devastating that we are helpless against it. How can we know how great the impact will be? To use a cliche, isn't it better to be safe than sorry?
12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 6/16/07 - 2:48:55 AM EST (GMT-5)
Welcome to the interglacial period. Well, it's to be expected when we're in just about the coldest time in earth's 4.6 billion year history. The last ice age was the coldest ever. So I'm not shocked that the earth is warming up. And it wouldn't really be an issue if people let natural selection take its course and didn't try to keep as many people alive as possible. In a natural world without any kind of human invention, the population would be under control. We'd have our limiting factors just like any other species. As it is, we've screwed ourselves over so we're pushed to the outer confines of continents and we have millions of people relying on produce from relatively small areas.

Eh, people are stupid. If they can't figure out that living right on the coast in a bad idea, they deserve to be flooded. Same goes for living near faults or active volcanoes or any other natural disaster.

12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 6/16/07 - 2:50:42 AM EST (GMT-5)
I bet you ninja a million dollars that they can stop global warming with alot of money. Because why would they even consider stopping it if they diddnt know how to stop it.
12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 6/16/07 - 2:52:22 AM EST (GMT-5)
Let me rephrase that^^ Why would they consider stopping global warming if they wernt sure that if they did anything it would stop it.
12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 6/16/07 - 2:57:17 AM EST (GMT-5)
At times like these, I really wish we had control over the Weather.
12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 6/16/07 - 3:01:17 AM EST (GMT-5)
'To use a cliche, isn't it better to be safe than sorry?'

Yes, but being safe in an earthquake doesn't involve preventing it, now does it? It involves being ready for what that earthquake can throw at you. Sometimes literally.

Same thing with floods, tornadoes, volcanic eruptions, etc.

The point is, nature cannot be f*cked with. One way or another, it's doing what it's gonna do, and we can't really stack any odds in our favor, as mother nature doesn't gamble.

12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 6/16/07 - 3:02:34 AM EST (GMT-5)
^^ Stfu loser
12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 6/16/07 - 3:03:11 AM EST (GMT-5)
you can tell that that guy is no fool Listin to his vocabulary Half the words he uses would put George Bush in a dazed state scratching his head
12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 6/16/07 - 3:07:42 AM EST (GMT-5)
global warming does exists

but we didnt cause it
its a natural cycle, just like anything in this planet...almost everything goes on a cycle, just like the weather

whatever years ago our planet used to be a ice crap hole, and before that it used to be a volcanic boiled up crap hole...poo happens, not our fault

sit back and watch the fireworks lads =)

12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 6/16/07 - 3:08:27 AM EST (GMT-5)
Just to clear something up- Hybrid cars are not a good alternative, the pollution produced to make one hybrid car is more then hummers can make in their lifetime. Also once all those hybrid cars are broken down, the real problem occurs of trying to dispose of the giant lithium batteries. Instead of buying hybrids people should be focusing on cleaner burning fuels or the much less harmful electric car.
12 yrs ago, 5 mos ago - Saturday 6/16/07 - 3:10:02 AM EST (GMT-5)
Yes but HylianNinja, how can you be so certain that there's no way we can intervene? If global warming is primarily caused by carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, and that's the primary reason the globe is heating up, doesn't it logically make sense to reduce the amount of CO2? I think your argument is groundless; you seem to be saying there's nothing we can do, nature will overrule human action, and we will fail. But I think you're neglecting human contributions that do factor into the equation.
To use the man's point: inaction has considerably greater consequences than action.

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