I am indifferent to this situation, but maybe I should be miffed, you tell me. The gal who did our accounting at the local office took another job and we... Who's Online | Find Members | Private Messages
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9 days ago - Wednesday 7/11/18 - 5:50:14 PM EST (GMT-5)
I am indifferent to this situation, but maybe I should be miffed, you tell me.

The gal who did our accounting at the local office took another job and we have a new gal here who started on Friday.

Anyway, my coworker found out that my boss is paying the new girl $22.60 per hour to do A/R, A/P, and some other miscellaneous office duties that "Accounting" has always handled.

To put it out there straight, I've worked here for 10 years and I make $16.25/hour. My coworker does a very time-consuming, but simple job and has worked here for 6 years; she makes $9.25 per hour.

9 days ago - Wednesday 7/11/18 - 5:50:27 PM EST (GMT-5)
She seems sort of pissed that my boss would pay someone unproven that much AND I'm pretty sure this is more than the gal who is leaving made and she cumulatively worked here for 12-13 years. I have to agree, tbh. I'm ok with the thought that that position has access to financial information and should probably make a little more than me, but almost $6 per hour for a newb... yeah, it's not really that cool.

How would you feel about that?

9 days ago - Wednesday 7/11/18 - 5:59:13 PM EST (GMT-5)
I feel like i would confront the boss about it. I hate the meme that you shouldn't talk about wages at work, it only allows bullsxht like this.
9 days ago - Wednesday 7/11/18 - 6:05:16 PM EST (GMT-5)
I would be annoyed but honestly if I were that other woman making $9.25 I would have left in a fcking rage as soon as I found that out. I know at my job the most I'll make is $18/hr unless I'm bumped up to department manager but everybody above me seems firmly wedged where they are. If I found out some close coworker was making a lot more than me I'd have to evaluate how I went forward in my position.
9 days ago - Wednesday 7/11/18 - 6:05:27 PM EST (GMT-5)
I've honestly thought about it, but I think it'll just come down to if he thinks I'm going to do any extra stuff that M used to do, I'm balking at that because the new gal is paid way more than me.

For being such a cheapskate, he sure has pulled out all the stops for new gal. She's pretty and personable and has a very good background in accounting, but.

Kind of a slap in the face, really.

I've taken on a lot of tasks here when they'd lay off people in the past and I'm pretty darn competent, if I do say so myself.
9 days ago - Wednesday 7/11/18 - 6:10:13 PM EST (GMT-5)
The lady that makes $9.25 an hour strictly scans old documents (yes, we had that many that she's done it for this long) to pdf and files them electronically. She also covers the phone for me when I go to the bathroom, have to step out, etc. Her job is at her own pace, but I do wish doofus would pay her more.
9 days ago - Wednesday 7/11/18 - 6:12:53 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 7/11/18 - 5:59:13 PM Orion wrote:
I feel like i would confront the boss about it. I hate the meme that you shouldn't talk about wages at work, it only allows bullsxht like this.

On top of that, it is usually illegal for companies to tell employees they aren't allowed to discuss pay. But almost all of them try to get away with it anyway. Because it leads to sh*t like this.

I really don't know what the going rate is for an AR/AP person in your area/industry, but it does seem strange that he'd pay a new person more than the old person who'd worked there for years and was familiar with the business, processes, etc.

$9.25/hr after working for the same company for 6 years is garbage, though. I wonder what her raise schedule has looked like over that time.

I do agree that you should politely decline to do any extra tasks, though.
9 days ago - Wednesday 7/11/18 - 6:15:26 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 7/11/18 - 6:10:13 PM Rag_Doll_ wrote:
The lady that makes $9.25 an hour strictly scans old documents (yes, we had that many that she's done it for this long) to pdf and files them electronically. She also covers the phone for me when I go to the bathroom, have to step out, etc. Her job is at her own pace, but I do wish doofus would pay her more.

I worked for a temp company for a little bit after moving to a new city, and did literally this exact job (but for medical records). Just digitizing everything they had, all day long.

Even through a temp agency, that was a $10/hr. job, and that was over a decade ago.
9 days ago - Wednesday 7/11/18 - 6:18:52 PM EST (GMT-5)
I've never been told not to discuss pay, tbh, but that's verbally. The outdated employee manual may say differently.

Yeah, I'm not taking on anything extra because M left. If he thinks the new gal is worth $22/hr, she can do it and if he asks me why I won't do it, I'll say because J makes a lot more than me.

R started as a temporary, minimum wage job, but the job she was doing was way more extensive than my boss realized and we retained her to do that job because we like her. I am her supervisor, but he determines everyone's pay.
9 days ago - Wednesday 7/11/18 - 6:19:33 PM EST (GMT-5)
My company generally doesn't pay stellar, but I like the people and I'm solidly needed here. That's why I'm still here.
9 days ago - Wednesday 7/11/18 - 6:27:51 PM EST (GMT-5)
Last year, one of my boss's daytime receptionists quit. He asked me if I knew anyone who wanted her job and told me the pay (very low). I felt bad because those receptionists work hard-not just reception duties but also medical billing, dealing with insurance companies, etc.
I earn much more per hour, but my job is specialized and I have certifications and such.
So, on one hand, I understand an accountant will be paid more than general staff.
On the other hand, I see that your workplace is a bit flexible and you all seem to do more than your job descriptions.
I think accountant's rate is fair.
Your rate is probably fair.
Scan lady does not have a case to earn as much as an accountant or you but perhaps she could negotiate a small raise.
9 days ago - Wednesday 7/11/18 - 6:31:15 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 7/11/18 - 6:19:33 PM Rag_Doll_ wrote:
I like the people and I'm solidly needed

I think you could find that elsewhere and be paid considerably more.
9 days ago - Wednesday 7/11/18 - 6:33:00 PM EST (GMT-5)
I'm still flabbergasted that Il Duce is paying the new girl that much.
9 days ago - Wednesday 7/11/18 - 6:33:23 PM EST (GMT-5)
Probably.
9 days ago - Wednesday 7/11/18 - 6:33:35 PM EST (GMT-5)
New gal might have told him she wouldn't accept the job without a certain amount of pay.
I've done that when applying for jobs when I wasn't desperate for one. The original offer was topped up by several dollars when I said the pay was too low after the offer.
Ftr, I don't like the salary negotiation game, though. Would rather have starting pay be upfront.
9 days ago - Wednesday 7/11/18 - 6:38:10 PM EST (GMT-5)
I am the one fully responsible for submitting proposals to government entities (bids) to try to get us work. I'm not a technical person, but I put them together and make sure that we've met every requirement so they don't get thrown out.

The person who did this before made almost twice as much as I do now. There were more departments to do this for in the past, but it's stressful and people are dolts to work with on these.

I also issue every one of their reports if I'm not sick or on vacation, answer their phone, do their shipping, reproduction, and any other little thing my boss thinks up. I'm having his windows in his office tinted Friday, btw, because the poor baby is hot in the afternoon.

I have a Bachelors degree, also.

I know that I'm working beneath my potential, but I'm good at my job.
9 days ago - Wednesday 7/11/18 - 6:40:02 PM EST (GMT-5)
I was having to pick up M's slack here and there for a while before she left and that was really irritating me, tbh, so at least hopefully the new gal is more "together".
9 days ago - Wednesday 7/11/18 - 6:41:03 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 7/11/18 - 6:33:35 PM mousepelled wrote:
New gal might have told him she wouldn't accept the job without a certain amount of pay. I've done that when applying for jobs when I wasn't desperate for one. The original offer was topped up by several dollars when I said the pay was too low after the offer. Ftr, I don't like the salary negotiation game, though. Would rather have starting pay be upfront.


I'm pretty sure she did, but that still doesn't make it right ethically.
9 days ago - Wednesday 7/11/18 - 6:41:38 PM EST (GMT-5)
You should get a raise too.
9 days ago - Wednesday 7/11/18 - 6:42:58 PM EST (GMT-5)
If I got a better job offer, he'd probably match it just to keep me. It's happened before with others.
9 days ago - Wednesday 7/11/18 - 6:46:43 PM EST (GMT-5)
Wait a sec, are you the one *writing* all these proposals, too?
9 days ago - Wednesday 7/11/18 - 6:49:32 PM EST (GMT-5)
Wow. You're entire work arrangement makes me mad as hell. Like, you literally know that you make half the money that your predecessor made? And new girl is starting at over $45k/yr?!

Fxck that. Time to sharpen the old resume up and look at competetors.
9 days ago - Wednesday 7/11/18 - 6:53:51 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 7/11/18 - 6:49:32 PM Orion wrote:
Time to sharpen the old resume up and look at competetors.

I'M SAYING.

The bid stuff ALONE makes me mad on your behalf when I see what you're paid. Part of my job is writing grant proposals, which was not something I had a ton of experience with before I started in this position. There is a reason people get paid good money for that stuff.
9 days ago - Wednesday 7/11/18 - 6:55:22 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 7/11/18 - 6:46:43 PM birdsong4j wrote:
Wait a sec, are you the one *writing* all these proposals, too?


Mostly copy and paste jobs on my part, but I take a first stab at them for the guys, yes.

It's very technical language, but I know a lot of it by now.
9 days ago - Wednesday 7/11/18 - 6:55:23 PM EST (GMT-5)
(It also just lends credibility to the idea that we all know has been true for years and years: companies routinely get rid of people/don't replace them when they quit, and expect others to pick up that work for very little, if any, pay increase.)

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