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Say it in public, you piece of sh*t

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10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 11:09:42 AM EST (GMT-5)
I don't think Ahmed is sexist and I don't think sleepy is dumb.

I just agreed with the hypocrisy that he pointed out. 1) with the birthday pouting and the veil bashing and 2) with the idea that men can't express emotion without being called names.

10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 11:14:20 AM EST (GMT-5)
I suppose he'll know to say it in public moving forward.

- -

Again. Not saying "should."

I do wonder, though, where the analysis loses meaning and becomes recursive. People are going through her past journals and citing them. SJ's expressed she feels she has to defend herself.

Hey, maybe I'm wrong and it's why some people are here. I don't count myself among them.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 11:14:34 AM EST (GMT-5)
I wasn't complaining that he was crying.


I was complaining that I had to deal with it. After he had dumped me.

Why is that hard to understand?
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 11:17:43 AM EST (GMT-5)
And again, I was upset because my family was conscious and purposely choosing to ignore my birthday.

That's upsetting. I don't think that's immature.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 11:22:24 AM EST (GMT-5)
Also, about my cousin - since that incident, my family has made efforts to become CLOSER to her.

My mum and grandma both have started to have lunch with her (separately) several times a month, and we're trying to make her feel more included.

No one talks to her about religion unless she brings it up.

And part of that is her parents divorce, but the other part is that we know how these sh*tty relationships go and we want to make sure that if she breaks up she won't feel alone, and if she's doesn't she won't end up isolated in a marriage where she's always talked over.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 11:22:58 AM EST (GMT-5)
But I don't know people are definitely going through SJ's past journals. Again, that could be kind of part of the 'Ahmed's creepy behaviour' narrative.

I recall all of these facts from public postings without having to cyberstalking SJ's old journals. I think petite does too?

SJ, I do get it - you having to comfort someone who chucked you is ironic, but that's not entirely how it came across. Coupled with the inflammatory language, people [including me] have drawn conclusions.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 11:24:05 AM EST (GMT-5)
You guys are so dang assumptive and judgmental over stuff you know so little about.

I mean it's fine to assess, but ask more questions and maybe listen to what I'm saying even if urban doesn't fit your narrative?
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 11:24:37 AM EST (GMT-5)
Sleepy's a tough lady. I agree when she asks, what if it'd been a more sensitive member?

Historically I know we find this sort of digging and analyzing interesting, I think if we move past it we'll be outgrowing it.

That's my opinion, and again - not a normative statement in the least. I've got emotion and communication and grace on the brain lately.

Anyway you're all cool and it's the point of discourse that you disagree, but I'll bow out.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 11:25:19 AM EST (GMT-5)
Sorry chips posted before yours came up.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 11:25:45 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 11/10/17 - 5:57:39 AM Mr Bungle wrote:
Liberals in their current state are a drating embarrassment and deserve the honor of lowest approval rating in decades. Grats on being only slightly less garbage than your opponent, who you didn't care about fopr 6ish years because your dude looked cute in baby photos while he initiated fast and furious, assassinated an American, and bombed more children than Bush. BUT THOSE BABY PHOTOS WERE SUPER CUTE.


I find you so f*cking annoying.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 11:31:23 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 11/10/17 - 8:10:09 AM petitefleur wrote:
Feminism isn't just women being able to do what they please without scrutiny. Men need to be equal too. Saying things like grow a pair, don't be a pussy, man up.... all are toxic and unequal.


I def agree.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 11:36:44 AM EST (GMT-5)
I write with a certain tone that I honestly don't feel is reflective of who I am, but is reflective of my mood.

And I usually post when I'm in a certain mood.

And I know that.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 11:41:35 AM EST (GMT-5)
Sorry, I still can't get over pansy being used in a completely different way.. sorry sounds like bull to me.

When people post journals, there may be people who disagree. Can't always hide behind people misinterpreting what you said or not asking enough questions.

Ahmed seems quite misguided in his approach.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 11:42:05 AM EST (GMT-5)
I think it's important to remember that people only know about you what you put out there when it comes to the internet.

Most people don't want advice they didn't ask for, especially of this nature, however.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 11:43:13 AM EST (GMT-5)
Getting a pm from some random with all the stuff is to up front for me, sorry he couldnt step it back to a something more appropriate and public.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 11:46:27 AM EST (GMT-5)
I also think the pm is just in Ahmed's nature. I have received a lot of pls from him about what I've posted in public. There are a couple others that do it, but it's always been nice things.

I would also be taken back if someone sent me a pm that i took as offensive.

I totally understand why she's upset.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 11:47:51 AM EST (GMT-5)
my whole deal is that anything sj did is besides the point
none of that matters in the context of this pm because the pm should not have been sent in the first place

and ahmed definitely seems like the type to read more into his interactions here than is actually there, so I’m sure he probably thinks he’s friends with sj, but I doubt that’s actually a set thing

friendly and friends are two different things
I imagine the friendlyness won’t be going on again any time soon
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 11:51:52 AM EST (GMT-5)
Yeah, there's a big difference between "our public interactions are mostly positive and jokey, and we get along" and "I'm gonna send you 5+ posts worth of my opinion on how you're living your life wrong."
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 11:53:04 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 11/10/17 - 11:41:35 AM luckystar107 wrote:
Sorry, I still can't get over pansy being used in a completely different way.. sorry sounds like bull to me.

Also this is totally in line with sleepy's nature as well. The double-down and defending.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 11:59:44 AM EST (GMT-5)
I find it hilarious that somebody sent a totally inappropriate and creepy PM to SJ and the response is to dog pile her.

F*cking YT.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 12:01:41 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 11/10/17 - 11:59:44 AM EhFahQ wrote:
I find it hilarious that somebody sent a totally inappropriate and creepy PM to SJ and the response is to dog pile her. F*cking YT.

This.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 12:17:17 PM EST (GMT-5)
Idk the only thing I saw her get criticized for was her own sexist behaviour, almost everyone agrees that the pm was inappropriate.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 12:20:05 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 11/10/17 - 12:17:17 PM luckystar107 wrote:
Idk the only thing I saw her get criticized for was her own sexist behaviour, almost everyone agrees that the pm was inappropriate.


This.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 12:21:19 PM EST (GMT-5)
I'm sorry, what sexist behaviour?

Because literally everyone uses those words.

10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 12:21:47 PM EST (GMT-5)
If you apply sexism to them, that's on you.

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