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Say it in public, you piece of sh*t

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13 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 8:02:23 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 11/10/17 - 5:49:12 AM chips2001 wrote:
All men are rapists or emotional cripples. WHICH ONE ARE YOU, HYLIAN? (Why not both?)
On Friday 11/10/17 - 7:23:29 AM Disappears wrote:
#notallmen


#notallemotionalcripples
13 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 8:05:52 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 11/10/17 - 7:48:25 AM skyfish wrote:
emotional cripple reporting in

same tbh
13 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 8:06:31 AM EST (GMT-5)
Ahmed said he was joking about the promiscuous behavior because sleepy also always jokes about it. I feel like he was actually coming from a place of friendship and help. I don't know if what he posted in here was everything... but it kinda just seems like Brutal honesty. The birthday thing was super bratty. And in context of when she gave her sister (?) tons of sht for converting to a new religion and expected her to deal with it because that's how their family works, makes it a bit hypocritical.

And to the person saying this is why we need feminism, I think that was one of his points? She wants to brag about her being so openly sexual and new age woman, and gets to call men pejorative names for expressing feelings? Kinda hypocritical, yah?
13 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 8:10:09 AM EST (GMT-5)
Feminism isn't just women being able to do what they please without scrutiny. Men need to be equal too. Saying things like grow a pair, don't be a pussy, man up.... all are toxic and unequal.
13 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 8:19:52 AM EST (GMT-5)
Well said, Petitefleur.
13 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 8:19:58 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 11/10/17 - 8:10:09 AM petitefleur wrote:
Feminism isn't just women being able to do what they please without scrutiny. Men need to be equal too. Saying things like grow a pair, don't be a pussy, man up.... all are toxic and unequal.


Yes. I couldn't agree more. This attitude of toxicity about masculinity in general, from men and women, is how the next generation of chauvinists are made and the cycle continues.

The thing about brutal honesty, is often, it masks plain assholeishness. In fact, brutal honesty should carry a government health warning and only be given when explicitly asked for.

Having said that, I think it was clumsiness on his part, rather than malevolence.
13 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 8:22:59 AM EST (GMT-5)
But if Ahmed's PM had been addressed to me, I have no doubt that I would be very upset and very angry.

There is definitely a difference between a gross generalisation/stereotype/sweeping statement and something pointedly aimed at someone, with examples.
13 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 8:23:27 AM EST (GMT-5)
are sj and ahmed friends?
it doesn’t seem that way

maybe that kind of ribbing would hold up if they have that kind of history between them, but doing it just because she has that kind of relationship (supposedly) with her sister is not okay
ahmed is just some random person

and being high is not an excuse
assuming he even was high and not just saying that to preemptively deflect criticism


I haven’t seen sj sh-t on men recently, but at the same time I haven’t been paying attention to journals the past few weeks, so if she was doing that it’s obviously not okay, but that’s a separate issue from the pm sent to her
13 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 8:32:07 AM EST (GMT-5)
13 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 8:38:44 AM EST (GMT-5)
Anyway, in conclusion, don't nobody be sh*tty to each other or anyone else.
13 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 8:39:31 AM EST (GMT-5)
The PM was essentially a response to her journal.

I mentioned the Madonna-Whore complex in that journal.

It seems like some women have their own dichotomies to deal with. They don't want to be tied down to some clingy needy man. But equally they don't want to be humped by some guy who acts like he just dropped by for pizza.

At some point the needle is going to swing to at least one of those extremes.
13 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 8:40:31 AM EST (GMT-5)
Idk, early thirties feels like the most dangerous time as my existential dread has done nothing but grow more powerful and is now palpable visceral force bit yet also standing up in the morning is hard and my body sounds like a machine gun as I stretch so I don't have the innate invincibility what youth reinforces in folks to be reassuring me about the black maw of life improving at any point

Basically my psyche looks more and more like a timebomb the deeper I go. Hitting thirty five is gonna be that odds evening moment when all that follow do so with a sphincter squeezed and sharp intake of breath
13 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 8:42:13 AM EST (GMT-5)
Yeah and I wasn't saying that he was giving her a hard time because her sister and her give each other hard time.

This last thanksgiving she threw a fit because she wanted her fam to celebrate her upcoming bday while they were getting together for thanksgiving. When her mom told her that they just want to do thanksgiving, she pouted and said she wasn't going becaue she can't handle being made fun of by her family.
In contrast with how the previous year she railed on her sister for leaving and not saying goodbye to her grandma because her entire family was making fun of how she recently converted to a new religion. And now her sister should have just dealt with it because that's how their family works.

I wasn't saying that Ahmed can joke around brutally with her because her and her sister joke like that.
13 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 8:52:42 AM EST (GMT-5)
now that you've laid all that out i'm starting to vaguely remember that

ahmed's pm might have triggered that memory in me if it hadn't been so incoherent


my ultimate point is mostly that ahmed is a rando and in no position to be giving advice to her in that particular way
13 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 8:56:47 AM EST (GMT-5)
Dis... he says in his post "as your friend who jokes around with you"

girl, readback!
13 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 9:03:40 AM EST (GMT-5)
oh i read that part
i don't believe that's actually the case
13 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 10:02:52 AM EST (GMT-5)
No one gave my cousin sh*t aside from my uncle, who we all agree was a jerk.

We were just kinda shocked. It was a total 180 for who she has been for the past 22 years, and over a guy who's parents aren't treating her like garbage and he doesn't stand up to them.

And I got annoyed when she tried the 'modesty is freeing' argument, because I felt , and still feel, that it's a giant crock of crock and the idea of modesty as a virtue is garbage.

Don't get me wrong, HUMILITY is incredibly important, but they are not the same thing. I can go more into that, if anyone's interested.

I didn't want my family to celebrate my birthday, I wanted them to ACKNOWLEDGE it. I found out later they had chosen to actively avoid it for reasons that are, again, a long story.

I wasn't making fun of him for crying, I was complaining that I had to take care of a upset person who had just dumped me.

13 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 10:05:12 AM EST (GMT-5)
I can't believe I have to defend myself here.

I didn't ask for someone to pm me telling me everything they felt was wrong with me and that if I closed my legs my problems would go away.


Also not posted here:

The part where I replied in a friendly way and got even MORE sh+t on and even more viciously.
13 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 10:07:55 AM EST (GMT-5)
I also bitch about men because I only date men.

I'm sure if I dated women they'de piss me off just as muchz
13 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 10:10:58 AM EST (GMT-5)
And the idea that calling men pansies is sexist is f*cking sexist.

Every can be a pansy.

The traits of a pansy are not f*cking 'feminine traits applied as shame to men'

Becauae I would not use feminisation as an insult, because that's f*cked up.

Please don't get me states on a linguistic f*ck fest.
13 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 10:12:09 AM EST (GMT-5)
Ahmed has never messaged me before.

13 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 10:18:05 AM EST (GMT-5)
Please tell me what you mean by pansy?
13 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 10:20:53 AM EST (GMT-5)
a weak, overly emotional person who folds easily under pressure and doesn't show much will.
13 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 10:21:32 AM EST (GMT-5)
Please don't tell me I have to make a #notallmen statement
13 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 10:23:46 AM EST (GMT-5)

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